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  1. Nov 19 12:00:02 <Tavmjong> ================ Board Meeting ================
  2. Nov 19 12:00:13 <Tavmjong> Agenda: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings
  3. Nov 19 12:00:57 <Tavmjong> First order of business: congrats to JonCruz on his new job!
  4. Nov 19 12:01:46 <johan_e> :) gratz
  5. Nov 19 12:01:48 <Tavmjong> Hope he'll still have time for Inkscape.
  6. Nov 19 12:02:15 <Tavmjong> Who is here?
  7. Nov 19 12:02:21 <JonCruz> Thanks!
  8. Nov 19 12:03:13 <JonCruz> Tavmjong: actually more time now, since I won't have to do prototypes or demos for potential employers. And more importantly I won't have proprietary practices getting in the way
  9. Nov 19 12:03:35 <Tavmjong> JonCruz, Excellent!!!
  10. Nov 19 12:04:08 <Tavmjong> bryce, ping
  11. Nov 19 12:04:13 <Tavmjong> doctormon, ping
  12. Nov 19 12:04:16 <bryce> Tavmjong, yep
  13. Nov 19 12:04:27 <Tavmjong> tedg, ping
  14. Nov 19 12:04:32 <Tavmjong> ScislaC, ping
  15. Nov 19 12:04:46 <ScislaC> PONG! I'm pseudo-here
  16. Nov 19 12:04:56 <Tavmjong> bryce, I see you have reordered the minutes.
  17. Nov 19 12:05:11 <tedg> Howdy folks
  18. Nov 19 12:05:23 <bryce> Tavmjong, yeah we didn't get to the RH hackfest last meeting so thought it'd be fair to give it first order this time
  19. Nov 19 12:05:43 <Tavmjong> bryce, I don't think Red Hat visits needs to much discussion. Item 1 is pretty settled.
  20. Nov 19 12:05:59 <bryce> Tavmjong, ok
  21. Nov 19 12:06:53 <Tavmjong> Item 2 can be decided later after the LGM hackfest is in better shape. I think it would only be a couple of people tacking a sidetrip to Boston to the LGM trip.
  22. Nov 19 12:07:51 <Tavmjong> I do think the FSA needs to get done. It's been on the agenda for a couple of years now.
  23. Nov 19 12:07:57 <bryce> item #2 being the FSA?
  24. Nov 19 12:08:09 <johan_e> I've also lost track Tavmjong
  25. Nov 19 12:08:23 <Tavmjong> bryce, No, item #2 was the Krzysztof visit. Sorry...
  26. Nov 19 12:08:39 <bryce> Tavmjong, ah
  27. Nov 19 12:09:09 <Tavmjong> item #1 was Martin attending the Fedora designers meeting.
  28. Nov 19 12:10:41 <Tavmjong> OK, I'll switch to topics. Topic 2: FSA.
  29. Nov 19 12:10:52 <JonCruz> Tavmjong: as a side note for follow-up on item 2, if it were to cross into gtk-wayland that lands it the direct path of my "professional" work.
  30. Nov 19 12:12:05 <Tavmjong> JonCruz, Can Inkscape work with Wayland without work on our side?
  31. Nov 19 12:12:30 <bryce> Tavmjong, in theory it should be usable under XWayland
  32. Nov 19 12:13:00 <Tavmjong> bryce, But wouldn't that be slower than using Wayland directly?
  33. Nov 19 12:13:04 <JonCruz> Good question. I'll ping KK about it. Gtk directly on Wayland should just magically work without the Inkscape team doing anything.
  34. Nov 19 12:13:06 <tedg> It should also work with a GTK/Cairo backend, no?
  35. Nov 19 12:13:15 <bryce> Tavmjong, what Jon is referring to is if there's work needed to get it running natively under Wayland, we might be able to tackle that work as part of our day job
  36. Nov 19 12:13:20 <JonCruz> tedg: is that a thing?
  37. Nov 19 12:13:28 <tedg> JonCruz, Yes
  38. Nov 19 12:13:42 <ScislaC> I'm sure the same canvas-flickering that plagues GTK3 builds will hit regular wayland
  39. Nov 19 12:13:45 <tedg> The tricker part will be with EGL, but not sure how much of a concern that is.
  40. Nov 19 12:13:46 <JonCruz> heh. that's a bryce question
  41. Nov 19 12:13:59 <tedg> The flickering actually should be a bit better.
  42. Nov 19 12:14:01 <JonCruz> but... as to "Topic 2" ?
  43. Nov 19 12:14:08 <bryce> JonCruz, except probably wayland/gtk is gtk3, and thus the aforementioned gtk issues
  44. Nov 19 12:14:43 <ScislaC> tedg: as in flashier? ;)
  45. Nov 19 12:15:01 <Tavmjong> Note to self: Get JonCruz to give a short talk/demonstration of Wayland at LGM.
  46. Nov 19 12:15:02 <bryce> anyway, while very interesting, inkscape+wayland is probably veering offroad a bit for this meeting ;-)
  47. Nov 19 12:15:15 <ScislaC> Anyway, FSA was brought up right before wayland
  48. Nov 19 12:15:19 <doctormon> here
  49. Nov 19 12:15:37 <JonCruz> ah, he's responding. We can tackle Topic 2 now :-)
  50. Nov 19 12:16:14 <Tavmjong> Does anybody object to the Proposed addition to the FSA? If not, I can ping Karen. They are waiting on us.
  51. Nov 19 12:17:20 <tedg> I agree with bryce that I think social pressure is good. But I understand the desire for policy here. +0
  52. Nov 19 12:17:53 <Tavmjong> Social pressure is working in 6/7 cases. (We have six here now!)
  53. Nov 19 12:18:06 <karen_> sorry was over in #inkscape
  54. Nov 19 12:18:08 <karen_> thanks su_v
  55. Nov 19 12:18:12 <su_v> yw
  56. Nov 19 12:18:15 <ScislaC> hi karen_
  57. Nov 19 12:18:20 <karen_> hi ScislaC!
  58. Nov 19 12:18:22 <Tavmjong> karen_ We are discussing the FSA now.
  59. Nov 19 12:18:33 <johan_e> hi karen_
  60. Nov 19 12:18:36 <karen_> I'm so glad my travels are over for the year, sorry to miss so many meetings!
  61. Nov 19 12:18:39 <karen_> hi johan_e!
  62. Nov 19 12:18:42 <karen_> cool Tavmjong
  63. Nov 19 12:18:49 <Tavmjong> karen_, Agenda: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings
  64. Nov 19 12:18:50 <JonCruz> karen_: that's ok. You made more than I did
  65. Nov 19 12:19:08 <bryce> Tavmjong, social pressure appears to be working out for #7 too, but not much I can say publically atm.
  66. Nov 19 12:19:38 <bryce> karen_, we've missed you!
  67. Nov 19 12:19:43 <karen_> :D
  68. Nov 19 12:21:43 <Tavmjong> bryce, I still think the addition is useful. It makes it more explicit what is expected of a board member and it better to have a policy in place before it is really needed.
  69. Nov 19 12:22:26 <karen_> Tavmjong, is there a draft?
  70. Nov 19 12:22:51 <Tavmjong> karen_, In the agenda there is a "Proposed addition".
  71. Nov 19 12:23:02 <johan_e> "Proposed addition: If a board member misses three or more votes in a row where multiple votes within one calendar month are counted as one vote, their board position is vacated.(The multiple votes within one calendar month are counted as one vote is to avoid a situation where a board member can be removed if they are not available for a few of weeks during which multiple votes take place.)"
  72. Nov 19 12:23:41 <Tavmjong> karen_, It's been essentially decided that requiring board members to attend regular IRC meetings was a bit too much.
  73. Nov 19 12:23:43 <doctormon> (or if 5 votes happen on one day ;-))
  74. Nov 19 12:24:23 <karen_> hmmm
  75. Nov 19 12:24:33 <bryce> Tavmjong, the phrasing I might quibble over but I've no issues with adding that as policy.
  76. Nov 19 12:24:41 <karen_> its definitely a good idea to have a provision like this - it's been helpful to other projects I've been involved with
  77. Nov 19 12:25:21 <karen_> maybe it would be better to say "except if those multiple votes are all within a period of n days"
  78. Nov 19 12:25:46 <karen_> I think counting them as one is confusing
  79. Nov 19 12:25:55 <Tavmjong> bryce, I would be happy to have someone re-write it.
  80. Nov 19 12:25:57 <karen_> especially to make it as long as a month
  81. Nov 19 12:26:41 <bryce> Tavmjong, I've rewritten it in my head several times but it never comes out clearer than what you've written.
  82. Nov 19 12:26:55 <ScislaC> Well, is anyone against the notion of it?
  83. Nov 19 12:27:08 <ScislaC> I think it's a good idea.
  84. Nov 19 12:27:25 <Tavmjong> bryce, Yeah, I spent a bit of effort but couldn't do better. Maybe karen_ can!
  85. Nov 19 12:27:37 <bryce> other than that is there anything else going into or being changed in the FSA ?
  86. Nov 19 12:27:46 <doctormon> It's logically consistent as it is.
  87. Nov 19 12:27:58 <Tavmjong> bryce, The 10% cut to SFC.
  88. Nov 19 12:28:03 <bryce> if not, I guess the next step would be to craft an actual full draft of the thing, and arrange a vote on the mailing list
  89. Nov 19 12:28:16 <bryce> Tavmjong, ok. that bit we already voted on a while back.
  90. Nov 19 12:29:53 <Tavmjong> karen_, Can you give us a full draft to vote on (with an edited version of the proposed addition)?
  91. Nov 19 12:30:25 <johan_e> karen_: the month period was a somewhat arbitrary choice I think, but it gives some slack (vacations, etc).
  92. Nov 19 12:30:49 <karen_> ok am working on a draft
  93. Nov 19 12:30:58 <Tavmjong> karen_, Thanks!
  94. Nov 19 12:31:27 <Tavmjong> Move on to Topic 3: LGM Hackfest?
  95. Nov 19 12:32:26 <Tavmjong> I think The Pitch looks good. Any comments?
  96. Nov 19 12:32:31 <bryce> karen_, so we've made a little forward progress on the hackfest but there's one or two action items we were blocking on for your input
  97. Nov 19 12:33:29 <karen_> how about something like: If a board member misses three or more consecutive votes, their board position will be terminated. For purposes of this provision, votes that are within 7 days shall not be counted as separate votes (the "Grace Period"). Further, Grace Period shall be extended up to 30 days upon prior written notice of unavailability by the board member to the rest of the board
  98. Nov 19 12:33:44 <karen_> I would run it by tony, our GC anyway
  99. Nov 19 12:33:54 <karen_> oh ok, bryce
  100. Nov 19 12:34:16 <bryce> karen_, Can we use Inkscape's existing paypal account or should we set up a separate one for fundraising ? We're operating on the assumption we can use the existing one, and use the 'item_id' field to differentiate hackfest-tagged donations vs. "ordinary" donations.
  101. Nov 19 12:34:28 <Tavmjong> karen_, Looks good to me.
  102. Nov 19 12:34:56 <bryce> karen_, the implication being that you guys would be able to help us tally the two amounts
  103. Nov 19 12:35:01 <karen_> I think we can use the the existing one, let me check with bradley
  104. Nov 19 12:35:04 <tedg> karen_, I think that is better, thanks!
  105. Nov 19 12:36:27 <bryce> so, if I read that right... this gives everyone 3 weeks by default, then pops them off?
  106. Nov 19 12:36:56 <bryce> or 6 weeks if they give written notice. Am I interpreting this correctly?
  107. Nov 19 12:37:20 <johan_e> actually, I read it as 2weeks+1day worst case period
  108. Nov 19 12:37:42 <tedg> I read it like bryce :-)
  109. Nov 19 12:37:46 <karen_> haha now I have to reread what i wrote:)
  110. Nov 19 12:38:03 <johan_e> day1: vote
  111. Nov 19 12:38:04 <johan_e> day8: vote
  112. Nov 19 12:38:04 <johan_e> day 15: vote =kick
  113. Nov 19 12:38:13 <karen_> yes 3 weeks by default if there are votes every week
  114. Nov 19 12:38:58 <johan_e> what is not defined is what it means to "miss a vote", when is that determined?
  115. Nov 19 12:39:05 <Tavmjong> We don't vote that often (11 votes in the 2014). But perhaps it should be 14 days instead of 7. I don't mind being conservative here.
  116. Nov 19 12:39:17 <karen_> oh I see what you are saying johan_e
  117. Nov 19 12:39:27 <karen_> yeah that's a good point too
  118. Nov 19 12:39:39 <johan_e> this basically requires a maximum vote duration somehow, right?
  119. Nov 19 12:39:50 <bryce> yeah, I think we can afford to be a little looser. The problem we're trying to solve is more a longer term one.
  120. Nov 19 12:40:26 <johan_e> i agree, 3 weeks is very short
  121. Nov 19 12:40:29 <bryce> I'm not super worried if someone goes missing for a few weeks. Life happens, I understand. It's more the chronic long term absentees that we're trying to handle.
  122. Nov 19 12:40:44 <karen_> miss a vote = not vote within the required time for action or 7 days whichever is longer?
  123. Nov 19 12:40:57 <bryce> karen_, that sounds good, yes
  124. Nov 19 12:41:16 <karen_> well unless the required time to act is like a year :)
  125. Nov 19 12:41:16 <Tavmjong> karen_, +1
  126. Nov 19 12:41:56 <karen_> this is why developers make good contract lawyers :)
  127. Nov 19 12:42:04 <bryce> heh
  128. Nov 19 12:42:36 <karen_> I was always surprised how easy it was for me to pick up contract drafting relative to my nonprogrammer law school peers
  129. Nov 19 12:43:54 <karen_> If no required time for action is stated then 2 weeks?
  130. Nov 19 12:44:10 <ScislaC> That sounds reasonable to me.
  131. Nov 19 12:44:14 <bryce> karen_, sounds good
  132. Nov 19 12:44:27 <Tavmjong> Sounds good to me too.
  133. Nov 19 12:44:50 <karen_> bryce: wait inkscape isn't using its own paypal link, right?
  134. Nov 19 12:45:21 <bryce> karen_, we're using the one that feeds into sfc
  135. Nov 19 12:45:37 <bryce> (same one we've always used.)
  136. Nov 19 12:46:02 <karen_> ok so long as we're not talkign about the old defunct inkscape one
  137. Nov 19 12:46:11 <karen_> I think I gave Bradley a heart attack :D
  138. Nov 19 12:46:20 <ScislaC> :D
  139. Nov 19 12:47:12 <doctormon> karen_: Where are the payment logs kept for our account?
  140. Nov 19 12:47:41 <bryce> doctormon, I have access to them
  141. Nov 19 12:47:47 <karen_> this is more in hte realm of bookkeeping doctormon, but we provide projects access to their accounting records in svn on conservancy's system
  142. Nov 19 12:47:58 <karen_> right, bryce has access :)
  143. Nov 19 12:48:29 <doctormon> I'd like to see a measure of the accounts publicly accessible. Are they possible to script?
  144. Nov 19 12:48:31 <bryce> doctormon, I posted some summaries to the list a few months back if you want to get a flavor. I haven't checked more recently but expect finances are about the same modulo a few bucks.
  145. Nov 19 12:49:15 <bryce> doctormon, yes they're scriptable and I have scriptage. Would be happy to work with you on improving the transparency for the data.
  146. Nov 19 12:49:32 <doctormon> (may require a vote, I'll leave that to the board)
  147. Nov 19 12:49:37 <doctormon> Thanks bryce
  148. Nov 19 12:49:41 <tedg> Ah, I have access too, just needed to find them :-)
  149. Nov 19 12:50:04 <bryce> doctormon, just more items for our respective todo lists...
  150. Nov 19 12:50:17 <doctormon> Todo for the moon!
  151. Nov 19 12:50:38 <JonCruz> todo: pick a todo manager package ;-)
  152. Nov 19 12:51:01 <bryce> karen_, anyway so the question is, if we tag donations with product_id or item_id or whatever it is to "hackfest", can that data be sussed out on your end to give us a tally of how much $$ we have for the hackfest?
  153. Nov 19 12:51:23 <bryce> JonCruz, we're writing one! (but it's on the todo list...)
  154. Nov 19 12:52:14 <karen_> bryce, bkuhn says that he can create a button for you
  155. Nov 19 12:52:43 <bryce> karen_, ok great
  156. Nov 19 12:53:55 <bryce> Tavmjong, ok what's next to discuss? mockup?
  157. Nov 19 12:54:52 <Tavmjong> The Pitch: final approval.
  158. Nov 19 12:55:17 <Tavmjong> It looks good to me (http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2015)
  159. Nov 19 12:55:32 <karen_> bkuhn just needs text for the button - a long string and a short string
  160. Nov 19 12:55:54 <karen_> the current text for example, is "Inkscape Donation via Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc." and "INKSCAPE"
  161. Nov 19 12:56:08 <tedg> pitch + 1
  162. Nov 19 12:56:10 * karen_ is reading the pitch
  163. Nov 19 12:56:17 <tedg> Or $pitch += 1
  164. Nov 19 12:57:15 <bryce> guessing it could simply be "Inkscape Hackfest 2015 Donation via Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc." and "INKSCAPE-HACKFEST-2015"
  165. Nov 19 12:57:43 <bryce> or maybe leave out the year if we want, not sure
  166. Nov 19 12:57:53 <karen_> I would add text saying who users are and why inkscape is a good public work - ie gives access to people who can't afford proprietary tools
  167. Nov 19 12:58:36 <johan_e> karen_: oh Karen, how disappointing. Calling Inkscape the poor-man solution. shame!
  168. Nov 19 12:58:37 <johan_e> :P
  169. Nov 19 12:58:41 <karen_> haha
  170. Nov 19 12:59:30 <karen_> I like the $5 level, but maybe say instead "if you would buy an inkscape developer a beverage!"
  171. Nov 19 13:00:24 <bryce> yeah that's probably better
  172. Nov 19 13:00:34 <karen_> also do you guys have a team picture from another meetup or anything?
  173. Nov 19 13:01:00 <bryce> I've got one from the first LGM but I think there's only 3 of us pictured
  174. Nov 19 13:01:07 <bryce> and that was years and years ago
  175. Nov 19 13:01:09 <karen_> I'm just looking for something visual
  176. Nov 19 13:01:14 <bryce> anyone have photos from last LGM?
  177. Nov 19 13:01:29 <karen_> I'm always surprised at how much that helps
  178. Nov 19 13:01:32 <johan_e> *anything better than the lame libreoffice picture please!* ;)
  179. Nov 19 13:01:41 <karen_> it also doesn't have to be people
  180. Nov 19 13:01:49 <su_v> Cedric blogged IIRC about the LGM meeting (?)
  181. Nov 19 13:01:55 <karen_> maybe a screenshot of something cool that was done after the last time you got together in person?
  182. Nov 19 13:01:59 <johan_e> (i have a picture of Tav and Kzrysz in a themepark ride?)
  183. Nov 19 13:02:32 <Tavmjong> johan_e, Hmm, probably not my best side.
  184. Nov 19 13:05:31 <ScislaC> Has any code that affected user-visible features really been hacked on in person before?
  185. Nov 19 13:05:59 <bryce> ScislaC, I think all code is hacked on in person
  186. Nov 19 13:06:45 <ScislaC> bryce: at in-person meetings of Inkscape developers? Is that more clear?
  187. Nov 19 13:07:01 <su_v> Inkscape meeting - http://afgral.org/2014/04/lgm-2014-leipzig-jour-3/
  188. Nov 19 13:07:44 <JonCruz> Any third-party pics from the mentors' summit?
  189. Nov 19 13:08:09 * karen_ is kicking herself not getting pics from the mentor summit
  190. Nov 19 13:08:17 <karen_> next year we will make an effort to take pics
  191. Nov 19 13:08:23 <karen_> remind me :D
  192. Nov 19 13:08:27 <johan_e> Krzysz took a picture of me and Tav at some point
  193. Nov 19 13:09:29 <bryce> yeah http://afgral.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/P1070201.jpg would work. I recognize doctormo; who are the others?
  194. Nov 19 13:09:49 <doctormon> Tav next to me
  195. Nov 19 13:10:13 <doctormon> Is that ryanlerch gesticulating?
  196. Nov 19 13:10:32 <ScislaC> Tav is to the right of doctormo?
  197. Nov 19 13:10:37 <ryanlerch> doctormon, ?
  198. Nov 19 13:10:59 <ScislaC> ryanlerch see the picture above
  199. Nov 19 13:11:01 <ryanlerch> oh, yeah that is me waving my hands around!
  200. Nov 19 13:11:05 <ScislaC> :)
  201. Nov 19 13:11:18 <johan_e> must have been something really massive!
  202. Nov 19 13:11:26 <doctormon> Inkscape codebase
  203. Nov 19 13:11:30 <karen_> thats'' a great picture
  204. Nov 19 13:11:39 <karen_> you should put tat on the page
  205. Nov 19 13:11:40 <ryanlerch> the vector i drew was this big
  206. Nov 19 13:12:01 <karen_> also, reminds me that inkscape may want to participate in the outreach program to expand its diversity :D
  207. Nov 19 13:12:02 <johan_e> the guy on your right is preparing to get up in outrage
  208. Nov 19 13:12:05 <johan_e> "mine is biggER!"
  209. Nov 19 13:12:07 <doctormon> I'm trying to get out of the way of it's size
  210. Nov 19 13:12:17 <doctormon> johan_e: That's me
  211. Nov 19 13:12:21 <johan_e> ah!
  212. Nov 19 13:12:22 <johan_e> hi!
  213. Nov 19 13:12:23 <ryanlerch> johan_e, that's doctormon
  214. Nov 19 13:12:23 <johan_e> :)
  215. Nov 19 13:12:33 <JonCruz> scribus peeps, right?
  216. Nov 19 13:12:44 <doctormon> karen_: It's a sore spot for many Free Software projects.
  217. Nov 19 13:13:10 <JonCruz> karen_: and I'm about to rally people to author a counter to that Barbie book
  218. Nov 19 13:13:22 <bryce> JonCruz, yay!
  219. Nov 19 13:13:30 <tedg> JonCruz, http://caseyfiesler.com/2014/11/18/barbie-remixed-i-really-can-be-a-computer-engineer/
  220. Nov 19 13:13:34 <ryanlerch> JonCruz, have you seen this -- https://computer-engineer-barbie.herokuapp.com/
  221. Nov 19 13:13:44 <karen_> yeah I saw that hilarious
  222. Nov 19 13:13:48 <tedg> Yeah, she wrote that too.
  223. Nov 19 13:13:56 <ryanlerch> its user submitted, so some NSFW
  224. Nov 19 13:14:34 <bryce> ryanlerch, nice
  225. Nov 19 13:15:11 <JonCruz2> hmmm
  226. Nov 19 13:15:35 <karen_> anyway it's a good picture if you think it suits, just to give people a sense of what would be happening
  227. Nov 19 13:17:21 <doctormon> We can always add bryce, tedg etc in using gimp :-P
  228. Nov 19 13:17:45 <bryce> feh who needs gimp
  229. Nov 19 13:18:00 <johan_e> karen_: it's a good point. we have to remember that when we are at our own hackfest, that we have to take a nice picture
  230. Nov 19 13:18:22 <tedg> Heh, I don't think I help increase diversity in any picture :-)
  231. Nov 19 13:18:42 <bryce> not a bad idea to show some proposed feature we plan to work on. I suppose that'll require coming up with an agenda... so maybe we can add the graphic later.
  232. Nov 19 13:19:41 <bryce> Tavmjong, we're over the hour, maybe one more short topic and call it a day?
  233. Nov 19 13:20:27 <Tavmjong> Donation page?
  234. Nov 19 13:20:51 <Tavmjong> Is there a mock-up yet?
  235. Nov 19 13:21:02 <johan_e> bryce: +1
  236. Nov 19 13:21:38 <bryce> ScislaC, ^
  237. Nov 19 13:24:02 <ScislaC> Terrible mock I've been updating as we've gone on. https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvshnhd5algn2cb/mock1.svg?dl=0 (you might need to download)
  238. Nov 19 13:24:51 <bryce> Tavmjong, maybe also do new action items if any
  239. Nov 19 13:25:10 <ScislaC> Again, the design aspect was stopped when it was thought to look for community designers to submit ideas.
  240. Nov 19 13:25:14 <doctormon> ScislaC: Do I need to show you the inkscape website? ;-)
  241. Nov 19 13:25:52 <karen_> also Bradley sent info for the paypal button
  242. Nov 19 13:26:02 <doctormon> With have a mockups category for svg files like the one on dropbox ScislaC. I use it all the time now.
  243. Nov 19 13:26:04 <ScislaC> doctormon: I could easily go grab headers/footers and all of that, this was loosely thrown together.
  244. Nov 19 13:26:53 <bryce> ScislaC, cool thanks for doing this!
  245. Nov 19 13:27:07 <doctormon> ScislaC: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/2180/
  246. Nov 19 13:28:13 <ScislaC> doctormon: Firefox seems to lose it's mind because of jquery on our website. I always have to stop the script it seems.
  247. Nov 19 13:28:13 <bryce> one thing I notice now is that the "we need funding" plea doesn't jump out
  248. Nov 19 13:28:26 <karen_> ok all I have to go, but I'll stay idle here so I can look at the log
  249. Nov 19 13:28:30 <JonCruz2> ScislaC: you da person!
  250. Nov 19 13:28:45 <johan_e> karen_: thanks for joining
  251. Nov 19 13:28:47 <ScislaC> thanks karen_
  252. Nov 19 13:29:04 <karen_> mock up looks good :)
  253. Nov 19 13:29:17 <Tavmjong> We'll need to get permission to use picture.
  254. Nov 19 13:29:25 <bryce> Tavmjong, good point
  255. Nov 19 13:29:56 <johan_e> I think we've edited the first line of the pitch into an unreadable, grammatically incorrect, monster!
  256. Nov 19 13:30:14 <Tavmjong> I need to go to.
  257. Nov 19 13:30:29 <ScislaC> Tavmjong: indeed, I just wanted some visual placeholder... I can draw stick figures of everyone. :)
  258. Nov 19 13:30:40 <bryce> doctormon, perhaps for next week you could identify a place in the menu for this page to live?
  259. Nov 19 13:30:53 <Tavmjong> bryce, Can you post minutes? I tried last time and couldn't preserve the line feeds.
  260. Nov 19 13:31:09 <bryce> Tavmjong, sure
  261. Nov 19 13:31:32 <Tavmjong> ScislaC, I can't wait to see your stick figure characterization of everyone!
  262. Nov 19 13:32:00 <Tavmjong> Good night y'all.
  263. Nov 19 13:32:05 <ScislaC> g'night Tavmjong!
  264. Nov 19 13:32:06 <doctormon> ScislaC: We have a serious problem on the website at the momnent, an infine loop in the menu adjust + sub menus appearing in the main menu. Nasty stuff.
  265. Nov 19 13:32:31 <johan_e> later Tavmjong
  266. Nov 19 13:32:32 <doctormon> bryce: I'd like to put the campaign on the front page as well as in the community menu.
  267. Nov 19 13:32:34 <ScislaC> doctormon: given that the menus funk out when I kill the script, that sounds about right. :)
  268. Nov 19 13:33:12 <doctormon> ScislaC: They were funk'd before the script ran, the script loops because of the excessive funk ;-)
  269. Nov 19 13:33:40 <bryce> ============ End of Board Meeting ============
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