I LOVE Eiko Ojala's style. In attachment one of his pieces.
Is it possible in Inkscape to generate a shadow that change distance progressively to imitate a piece of paper not parallel to the bottom sheet? As you see from Ojala's, the upper mountains have this kind of progressive shadows.
Do you think the image is composed in Photoshop, cutting all the extra pieces of shadows?
Yes, i know about the standard shadows, and Ojala doesn't use those.
He creates shadows with a variable offset: at one end of a curve there is no shadow, then it grows thin and stark along the curve, till it is thick and very subtle at the other end. This is the effect I'm interested in.
It gives a very nice effect, like two sheets of paper are not parallel as in normal cut out, but one piece is actually 'coming out' with an angle from the other one. It is very convincing. I add a simpler image.
There are several ways to create "shadow like" results within Inkscape.
You can also create shapes that have "tapered" ends as possible shadows (altering the color/blur level, and opacity of the shape) for your intended shapes. (These can be placed "below" or "above" your key intended shapes, to simulate shadows ... on the same layer, or multiple layers)
By "tapered", see some examples I shared in the svg files at this link:
@Ken Wilson and @Paddy_CAD, thank you for your answers. Alas I cannot see Ken's images:it looks like they have been removed. I will try with blurred "tapered" lines anyway.
Paddy's solution is interesting, with a blurred shape used as shadow. I hoped to use real shadows: create a polygon with solid fill, generate the shadow effect, set the polygon's fill to transparent and use the isolated shadow. Alas setting the fill transparent, the shadow disappears..
Hi, again. The files I referenced are svg files. They were made in Inkscape and still useable. You have to download them individually to "see" them and open them in Inkscape.
I am glad you are finding a workable solution with what Paddy_Cad shared. All the best to you.
Here is my first test. It is a difficult balance, and as you can see in the SVG it is a puzzle of a lot of different pieces that need fine manual adjust. The rendered PNG is acceptable, but I am studying other alternatives to avoid little glitches (such as on the baby's head fountain).
If only it was possible to create inner and outer shadows from invisible shapes it would become a lot easier to do it.
Here's a test using the stroke of the object converted to path and divided along the perceived plane. The strokes-to-paths are blurred and modified using perspective effect.
This is merely to suggest using gradients for the large fills to reinforce the direction of the light; and trying the shape's stroked path as the source of both inner and outer shadow.
Still needs some tweaks, maybe masks on the shadows. Rather than a perspective, maybe I'd try a Lattice deform path effect.
(Click on the thumbnail to enlarge, right-click to save image.)
Hi, again. Attached below is a short and simple example of using a tapered shape for a basic shadow like (paper cut out) result. This is just one of several methods. Look it over. I trust it will help stir your imagination and creative juices. Be blessed!
That's an excellent first attempt, Nemecsek. I think you nailed it. Maybe you'll show us the final image when you're happy with it. https://inkscape.org/forums/finished/
Thank you guys! I am now satisfied with the result, even if I should add grain and some semi-transparent gradients to smooth it out.
I have been using Inkscape for a few years for quick semi-technical drawing in the office (only outlines and solid colors), and this is my first attempt with filters and gradients 😜
Tapered shapes are a quick solution indeed! Not really perfect for the nitpicky, on the thin white lower spikes, but enough for me 😁
@TylerDurden I saw too late your post, sorry. Your solution is indeed the same I found. Now I want to find a way to make the thinner shadows where the sheets intersect less blurred (more defined) and darker compared to the other ones.
Thank you very much for your help and the time you gave me!
@TylerDurden, it is a good idea, but for a perfect shadow the exact opposite is necessary: a shadow that is stronger/thinner/not blurred at the ends of the shape, and weaker/wider/blurred in the middle. I read that Eiko Ojala sometimes takes photos of real shadows to apply with Photoshop. Kind of cheating, isn't is? 😁
Beyond the Basics How to create a shadow like in Eiko Ojala's images?
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I LOVE Eiko Ojala's style. In attachment one of his pieces.
Is it possible in Inkscape to generate a shadow that change distance progressively to imitate a piece of paper not parallel to the bottom sheet?
As you see from Ojala's, the upper mountains have this kind of progressive shadows.
Do you think the image is composed in Photoshop, cutting all the extra pieces of shadows?
Hi, Nemecsek. Explore using the goodies under Inkscape's Filters > Shadow & Glows.
And possibly, look at:
https://inkscape.org/pt/forums/questions/make-inner-glowing-shapes-in-inkscape/
and
https://inkscape.org/forums/tutorials/experimenting-with-shadow-cut-outs/
Hi Ken.
Yes, i know about the standard shadows, and Ojala doesn't use those.
He creates shadows with a variable offset: at one end of a curve there is no shadow, then it grows thin and stark along the curve, till it is thick and very subtle at the other end. This is the effect I'm interested in.
It gives a very nice effect, like two sheets of paper are not parallel as in normal cut out, but one piece is actually 'coming out' with an angle from the other one. It is very convincing. I add a simpler image.
There are several ways to create "shadow like" results within Inkscape.
You can also create shapes that have "tapered" ends as possible shadows (altering the color/blur level, and opacity of the shape) for your intended shapes. (These can be placed "below" or "above" your key intended shapes, to simulate shadows ... on the same layer, or multiple layers)
By "tapered", see some examples I shared in the svg files at this link:
https://inkscape.org/forums/tutorials/examples-of-brush-shapes-i-made/
(And you can create shadow like results, by using gradients (with varying colors, grays, etc.)
Here's a quick example. I copied the shapes and used scaling, skews, blurs and clip paths for distortion and shadows.
@Ken Wilson and @Paddy_CAD, thank you for your answers.
Alas I cannot see Ken's images:it looks like they have been removed. I will try with blurred "tapered" lines anyway.
Paddy's solution is interesting, with a blurred shape used as shadow.
I hoped to use real shadows: create a polygon with solid fill, generate the shadow effect, set the polygon's fill to transparent and use the isolated shadow. Alas setting the fill transparent, the shadow disappears..
Hi, again. The files I referenced are svg files. They were made in Inkscape and still useable. You have to download them individually to "see" them and open them in Inkscape.
I am glad you are finding a workable solution with what Paddy_Cad shared. All the best to you.
Here is my first test.
It is a difficult balance, and as you can see in the SVG it is a puzzle of a lot of different pieces that need fine manual adjust.
The rendered PNG is acceptable, but I am studying other alternatives to avoid little glitches (such as on the baby's head fountain).
If only it was possible to create inner and outer shadows from invisible shapes it would become a lot easier to do it.
Studying your files, @ken10001000 , I didn't try the obvious: to download an invisible SVG.
Thank you!
Here's a test using the stroke of the object converted to path and divided along the perceived plane. The strokes-to-paths are blurred and modified using perspective effect.
This is merely to suggest using gradients for the large fills to reinforce the direction of the light; and trying the shape's stroked path as the source of both inner and outer shadow.
Still needs some tweaks, maybe masks on the shadows. Rather than a perspective, maybe I'd try a Lattice deform path effect.
(Click on the thumbnail to enlarge, right-click to save image.)
Hi, again. Attached below is a short and simple example of using a tapered shape for a basic shadow like (paper cut out) result. This is just one of several methods. Look it over. I trust it will help stir your imagination and creative juices. Be blessed!
That's an excellent first attempt, Nemecsek. I think you nailed it. Maybe you'll show us the final image when you're happy with it. https://inkscape.org/forums/finished/
Part 4 - using only Filters.
There are great ideas being shared here by others.
Thank you guys!
I am now satisfied with the result, even if I should add grain and some semi-transparent gradients to smooth it out.
I have been using Inkscape for a few years for quick semi-technical drawing in the office (only outlines and solid colors), and this is my first attempt with filters and gradients 😜
Tapered shapes are a quick solution indeed!
Not really perfect for the nitpicky, on the thin white lower spikes, but enough for me 😁
@TylerDurden I saw too late your post, sorry. Your solution is indeed the same I found. Now I want to find a way to make the thinner shadows where the sheets intersect less blurred (more defined) and darker compared to the other ones.
Thank you very much for your help and the time you gave me!
That is looking quite good!
Here's a way to taper the paths for the shadows, using the tweak tool:
What remains is, instead of a constant blur, a custom blur filter that tapers to unblurred at the ends. 💭
@TylerDurden, it is a good idea, but for a perfect shadow the exact opposite is necessary: a shadow that is stronger/thinner/not blurred at the ends of the shape, and weaker/wider/blurred in the middle. I read that Eiko Ojala sometimes takes photos of real shadows to apply with Photoshop. Kind of cheating, isn't is? 😁