it seems to me that the program is missing two things: 1. The ability to move a copy of an object to a specified distance. that is, it takes a long time to create a copy, and then move the copy with a separate command. you need to select an object, drag it and click the button to make sure that the object remains, and you drag a copy. Moreover, you need to be able to specify the direction with the mouse and enter the distance by which this copy is placed as part of this operation. it turns out that with one operation you can perform an exact action with many sub-settings.. is it faster than now? 2. you need the ability to create arrays based on this principle: drag the object, click the "multiply" button. specify the type of reproduction (create a copy at a certain distance or place the number of copies between two points.. ) next, specify the direction and set the value. this principle requires fewer operations and the speed of work will increase.. it will be good if this method of reproduction appears under the name "manual" as a separate tab in the menu ctrl+shift+m.. I have attached a video showing how this is implemented in archicad. in my opinion, this is more ergonomic than what we have now. maybe it's worth your attention. Thank you.
Well - we have „Interpolation“+“Array tools“ and „Tiled Clones“, „Distribute along Path“, „Pattern along Path“ etc. (No question ArchiCAD has its advantages.)
I'm not suggesting using archicad. I draw attention to the fact that this operation can be performed with fewer operations... I did this because my friend works in Korea and cannot switch to inkscape because of this annoying feature. I tried to explain how to optimize, and... this turned out to be less ergonomic than in corel (in which my friend creates diagrams) and in archicade (in which I make plans). It's not about personality or the name. it's about the number of operations per procedure. if I am using inkscape incorrectly, please explain
Option 1: 1.1. ctrl +d -cloning 1.2. ctrl + m - moving to a specified distance the problems of this option are: do not set the direction of the specified distance with the mouse. Currently, you can only set the orthogonal offset. it would be nice if the default direction would be set with the mouse. with a shift, it is orthogonal. that is, you do not need 2 windows (x and y), one window with a distance is enough
Option 2 2.1. space - creating copies with a space while moving an object.. 2.2. ctrl+shift+a - distribution of objects.. the problem with this option is 2.2.1. the inability to distribute between 2 points (by the way, the "-1" mode would not hurt so that the last point remains empty (see video) 2.2.2 inability to distribute diagonally. Ideally, it would be worth combining tasks 1 and 2. if I'm doing it wrong, please explain. if I have described the problem correctly, please include it in the review
it's hard to find something in the help that I don't understand, especially in a non-native language.. youtube helped =) Your video helped a lot. It took me a while to realize that the up arrow was shift.. Thanks for the explanation. I will definitely use it.
As for the topic of this chat, the problem of entering the distance between the elements has not been solved anywhere.. maybe it's worth entering an additional checkbox in the path effect "interpolate sub-path" to activate the input of the step value between the elements?
But how do I set the distance between two elements before using the "interpolate sub-path"?
1 How did you do it? =) how do I enable interactive distance input?
2. how do I set the distance between objects by moving them diagonally?
3. is it possible to enter a distance for several objects by moving them diagonally? it is not visible which operation you performed.. what did you click in the context menu? (to Poligon for last video)
4 can I snap the dimensions of the object to the ruler?
Regarding distance along an angle, I don't see any built-in method. Inkscape is not a CAD program, after all.
I'd make a circle with a radius of the desired distance and set a guide or line on the desired angle from the original to the circle. If the angle/distance is used repeatedly, you could make an object to use like a draftsman would use on paper.
as far as I know, Corel is an analog of Inkscape. although it is not CAD, thanks to several options it is convenient to make even drawings (stairs, grids, layouts, etc.) , my colleague made a video (it is in Russian, but you can watch it without sound) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpSjL_TxThA. it shows that the ctrl+shift+a / tab "grid" function has positioning options and you can not only set the distances between the boundaries of objects, but also between their centers. it is also possible to repeat the action (this is convenient for creating stairs) if you make the previously discussed possibility to set a step in a given direction manually, and also take into account the possibilities listed in the first two paragraphs, then inkskape will become much more convenient.. if you agree, let's try to create a request for the developer
at the expense of ctrl+shift+a / tab "grid" - I found how to do it in the center.. but is there a "repeat of the last operation" in inkscape? and there is definitely no way to manually set the directions for the distance.. so it seems to me that there is still a reason to contact the developers
I have no clue why you come up with more CAD features. If you need a equal distance think about a grid or generate guides or establish helper objects perhaps.
What does CAD have to do with it? I'm comparing it to corel.. I found an inaccuracy and reported it: you can turn on the equal distance mode, but the distance itself is displayed incorrectly in this mode and it cannot be clamped.. this is strange..
Obviously, when changing the mode from "distance between objects" to "distance between centers" by checking the checkbox provided by the developer, you should be able to enter a number that will work correctly. why is it possible to enter distance in corel, but here - "you have to endure, it's not CAD, is it?" it can be seen that there is some flaw here, and the input field does not work when the "same distance" checkbox is clicked.. why can't I use the input field when this checkbox is enabled?.. it would be very convenient to enter the distance between the centers into it when the checkbox is pressed. Have you watched the program, what am I talking about? I'm talking about "interpolate sub-paths" in "path effects" I know that there are people who care about this. I know a person who can't change corel to inkscape because of this flaw. I ask you to answer constructively, and not in the format "this is nonsense" ... I ask you to answer someone who understands how to fix it. a question for those who are not indifferent: how to make a request to the developer. what is needed for this?
how ridiculous is the principle of movement! my finger gets tired of having to "drag" an object or node.. moreover, you can not do this outside the screen!.. how convenient it would be if you could select "what" with the first click, then enter all the arguments (distance, angle, quantity, etc.) and after: zooming the screen with the mouse wheel, select "where" and finish the action with the second click.. Well, it's more ergonomic!
What you describe are common conventions in parametric drawing programs like CAD.
Inkscape is better described as an illustration program.
Think of the distinction between the tools a draftsman uses, compared with the tools an illustrator uses. (When not using computers. - Back in the before times.)
Creating New Extensions manual array
Inkscape.org
it seems to me that the program is missing two things:
1. The ability to move a copy of an object to a specified distance.
that is, it takes a long time to create a copy, and then move the copy with a separate command.
you need to select an object, drag it and click the button to make sure that the object remains, and you drag a copy.
Moreover, you need to be able to specify the direction with the mouse and enter the distance by which this copy is placed as part of this operation.
it turns out that with one operation you can perform an exact action with many sub-settings..
is it faster than now?
2. you need the ability to create arrays based on this principle:
drag the object, click the "multiply" button. specify the type of reproduction (create a copy at a certain distance or place the number of copies between two points.. ) next, specify the direction and set the value.
this principle requires fewer operations and the speed of work will increase..
it will be good if this method of reproduction appears under the name "manual" as a separate tab in the menu ctrl+shift+m..
I have attached a video showing how this is implemented in archicad. in my opinion, this is more ergonomic than what we have now.
maybe it's worth your attention. Thank you.
Well - we have „Interpolation“+“Array tools“ and „Tiled Clones“, „Distribute along Path“, „Pattern along Path“ etc. (No question ArchiCAD has its advantages.)
I'm not suggesting using archicad. I draw attention to the fact that this operation can be performed with fewer operations...
I did this because my friend works in Korea and cannot switch to inkscape because of this annoying feature.
I tried to explain how to optimize, and... this turned out to be less ergonomic than in corel (in which my friend creates diagrams) and in archicade (in which I make plans). It's not about personality or the name. it's about the number of operations per procedure.
if I am using inkscape incorrectly, please explain
Option 1:
1.1. ctrl +d -cloning
1.2. ctrl + m - moving to a specified distance
the problems of this option are: do not set the direction of the specified distance with the mouse.
Currently, you can only set the orthogonal offset.
it would be nice if the default direction would be set with the mouse. with a shift, it is orthogonal.
that is, you do not need 2 windows (x and y), one window with a distance is enough
Option 2
2.1. space - creating copies with a space while moving an object..
2.2. ctrl+shift+a - distribution of objects..
the problem with this option is
2.2.1. the inability to distribute between 2 points (by the way, the "-1" mode would not hurt so that the last point remains empty (see video)
2.2.2 inability to distribute diagonally.
Ideally, it would be worth combining tasks 1 and 2.
if I'm doing it wrong, please explain. if I have described the problem correctly, please include it in the review
Feature requests: https://inkscape.org/forums/beyond/how-to-report-bugs-or-request-new-features/
Until that is implemented, maybe this:
Yes. It's a great way. Thank you. but it also does not provide for specifying the distance.
by the way, if it's not difficult, please explain why I couldn't use it for two objects?
and how to see what "ctrl+k" is
For specifying distance, on can use guides or type numeric entry for total distance into the Select Tool's controls.
The method is a "Live Path Effect" (LPE) or "Path effect", which only work on single path objects. But as you see, they can be compound paths.
Ctl+K is "combine", a path operation (boolean).
Why is this happening? why does he write that only 1 object can be used?
can i snap to rules?
🧙 All you seek is revealed here:
http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/index.html
Release notes/1.0 - Inkscape Wiki
Release notes/1.2 - Inkscape Wiki
Release notes/1.3 - Inkscape Wiki
it's hard to find something in the help that I don't understand, especially in a non-native language.. youtube helped =)
Your video helped a lot. It took me a while to realize that the up arrow was shift..
Thanks for the explanation. I will definitely use it.
As for the topic of this chat, the problem of entering the distance between the elements has not been solved anywhere..
maybe it's worth entering an additional checkbox in the path effect "interpolate sub-path" to activate the input of the step value between the elements?
But how do I set the distance between two elements before using the "interpolate sub-path"?
I would position objects before combining into a single path:
Or interactive:
1 How did you do it? =) how do I enable interactive distance input?
2. how do I set the distance between objects by moving them diagonally?
3. is it possible to enter a distance for several objects by moving them diagonally? it is not visible which operation you performed.. what did you click in the context menu? (to Poligon for last video)
4 can I snap the dimensions of the object to the ruler?
Thank you very much!!! for your responsiveness and patience!
Regarding distance along an angle, I don't see any built-in method. Inkscape is not a CAD program, after all.
I'd make a circle with a radius of the desired distance and set a guide or line on the desired angle from the original to the circle. If the angle/distance is used repeatedly, you could make an object to use like a draftsman would use on paper.
as far as I know, Corel is an analog of Inkscape. although it is not CAD, thanks to several options it is convenient to make even drawings (stairs, grids, layouts, etc.)
, my colleague made a video (it is in Russian, but you can watch it without sound)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpSjL_TxThA.
it shows that the ctrl+shift+a / tab "grid" function has positioning options and you can not only set the distances between the boundaries of objects, but also between their centers.
it is also possible to repeat the action (this is convenient for creating stairs)
if you make the previously discussed possibility to set a step in a given direction manually, and also take into account the possibilities listed in the first two paragraphs, then inkskape will become much more convenient..
if you agree, let's try to create a request for the developer
at the expense of ctrl+shift+a / tab "grid" - I found how to do it in the center.. but is there a "repeat of the last operation" in inkscape? and there is definitely no way to manually set the directions for the distance..
so it seems to me that there is still a reason to contact the developers
speaking of equal-pitch distribution: how do I set the same step? why does the step value and the actual distance not match?
how to correctly set the distance between the centers equal to 50?
it seems to me that when the equal width checkbox is enabled, the interval value should change
I have no clue why you come up with more CAD features. If you need a equal distance think about a grid or generate guides or establish helper objects perhaps.
What does CAD have to do with it? I'm comparing it to corel.. I found an inaccuracy and reported it: you can turn on the equal distance mode, but the distance itself is displayed incorrectly in this mode and it cannot be clamped.. this is strange..
The Set Spacing selection refers to spacing between objects, not distance center-to-center.
but if the "same distance between centers" flag is enabled, isn't it logical to be able to set this distance?
Distance ≠ Spacing
Obviously, when changing the mode from "distance between objects" to "distance between centers" by checking the checkbox provided by the developer, you should be able to enter a number that will work correctly.
why is it possible to enter distance in corel, but here - "you have to endure, it's not CAD, is it?" it can be seen that there is some flaw here, and the input field does not work when the "same distance" checkbox is clicked..
why can't I use the input field when this checkbox is enabled?.. it would be very convenient to enter the distance between the centers into it when the checkbox is pressed. Have you watched the program, what am I talking about?
I'm talking about "interpolate sub-paths" in "path effects"
I know that there are people who care about this.
I know a person who can't change corel to inkscape because of this flaw.
I ask you to answer constructively, and not in the format "this is nonsense" ...
I ask you to answer someone who understands how to fix it.
a question for those who are not indifferent: how to make a request to the developer. what is needed for this?
Everyone is encouraged to read the notifications at the top of the forums.
e.g. In the forum Beyond the Basics, there is a notification: "How to Report Bugs or Request New Features"
I'm sorry, thank you
it turns out that I requested an extension to the wrong topic?
sorry.
I thought I translated the topic title correctly.
how ridiculous is the principle of movement!
my finger gets tired of having to "drag" an object or node..
moreover, you can not do this outside the screen!..
how convenient it would be if you could select "what" with the first click, then enter all the arguments (distance, angle, quantity, etc.) and after: zooming the screen with the mouse wheel, select "where" and finish the action with the second click..
Well, it's more ergonomic!
What you describe are common conventions in parametric drawing programs like CAD.
Inkscape is better described as an illustration program.
Think of the distinction between the tools a draftsman uses, compared with the tools an illustrator uses. (When not using computers. - Back in the before times.)