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Beginners' Questions Can I disable the Shape Builder Tool?
  1. #1
    K K @fugueink

    I know it's revolutionary, but the Shape Builder Tool keeps popping up when I am trying to nudge objects by individual pixels. I hold down the Option key and there the Shape Builder is.

     

    It would be nice to disable it until and unless I want to use it. Is there already a way to do that?

     

    Thanks!

  2. #2
    Polygon Polygon @Polygon🌶

    The default Shortcut for the Shape Builder Tool is "X" and shouldn´t appear just by nudging with the "N" tool + option key - at least it don´t do it here.

  3. #3
    David248 David248 @David248
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    Check your keyboard shortcuts and disable its shortcut. 

    Edit : sorry, polygon already gave a near answer.

  4. #4
    K K @fugueink

    I should've thought of that!

     

    My apologies. Distracting things going on here.

     

    Thank you for your patience!

  5. #5
    K K @fugueink

    Oops.

     

    All three Shape Builder Keyboard shortcuts on the keyboard (Inkscape carbon MacOSX) are disabled already.

    Any other suggestions?

     

    K

  6. #6
    Polygon Polygon @Polygon🌶

    Look under Modifiers please.

  7. #7
    K K @fugueink

    Ah, that appears to be the problem. I couldn't figure out how to get that tab working, and a tip appeared while I was hovering. (I think the lack of such tips in iOS is why I find it so hard to learn and I hate it so much.)

     

    It was odd, though. It only had the Shift key as a modifier, not Alt.

  8. #8
    K K @fugueink

    It's still coming up when I press the Option (Alt) key.

     

    I did quit Inkscape and restart it.

  9. #9
    Polygon Polygon @Polygon🌶

    Can´t recreate this behaviour, have you checked other tools using "Modifier"-keys?

  10. #10
    K K @fugueink

    Well, the problem is intermittent. I can "clear" it by clicking on the Selection Tool, and then Opt-Arrow works as it's supposed to.

     

    There are a lot of things I am having trouble with in the interface. The Shape Builder coming up when I don't want it is just the most annoying.

     

    I am using macOS 10.15.7 (Catalina), but Inkscape 1.3 is supposed to work normally on that, yes? I am also using Inkscape 1.3 (0e150ed, 2023-07-21). (My apologes for forgetting that information!)

  11. #11
    Polygon Polygon @Polygon🌶

    I´m on a M1Mac/BigSur. Do you have any short keys customised? If not maybe a "Reset" at Preferences->Keyboard might help or Inkscape->System->Reset Preferences and a restart of Inkscape will do. Fingers crossed.

  12. #12
    K K @fugueink

    I don't remember whether I have any customized or not.

     

    I'll try the reset and get back to you later. (Sorry, Inkscape is a hobby, so other things often intrude!)

     

    Thanks!

  13. #13
    K K @fugueink

    Nope. Just had an opportunity to test the raw keyboard (I did have some custom strokes because I missed them as soon as I started working!). I still got the Shape Builder the instant I held down the Option key.

     

     

  14. #14
    Polygon Polygon @Polygon🌶
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    Strange - very strange. Sounds like a defective keyboard. Can you disable the Shape Builder Tool´s shortcut completely and restart Inkscape to see if that helps at least? (Seems there´s no way to exclude it completely from the short cut list or leave the entry empty. Maybe assign something very rare uncommon like numPad"=".)

    Can you add a simply step by step instruction till the shape builder tool appears?

  15. #15
    K K @fugueink
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    Well, I did that before, before I reset the keyboard.

     

    The "Switch mode" read "[NEVER]    bool-shift". I've set it to that again, but I don't have much hope.

     

    I've always had trouble with the interface. For instance, intermittently I have a terrible time persuading Inkscape to move what I have selected. I'd press Opt-Arrow and sometimes it would behave properly and sometimes it wouldn't respond at all. Done that since the first version of Inkscape I used and still does it.

     

    As for step by step, there isn't much to say. I have a shape, a path, or a node selected with the Selector Tool. I press the Opt key in preparation to using the Arrow keys to nudge the thing a pixel at a time. Possible responses:

    1. It nudges the thing 1 px in the direction I indicated.
    2. Nothing at all.
    3. Switches me to the Shape Builder.

    I never know which I'll get. I can clear (2) by moving the item with my mouse, Undoing that move, and then returning to Opt-Arrow. To clear (3), I click on the already-selected Selector Tool again.

     

    But it's annoying. I at least want to know what a given action will do, whether it's what I want it to do or not.

     

    On edit:

    I'll try your suggestion of a rare keystroke. I don't have a number pad, so those are definitely available!

  16. #16
    Polygon Polygon @Polygon🌶

    You can set the Steps moving with arrow keys to 1px at Preferences->Behavior->Steps so no modifier key is needed.

  17. #17
    K K @fugueink

    Already set to that before all this started.

     

    Maybe the arrow keys are supposed to do that. They don't. They never have in any version of Inkscape that I have used.

  18. #18
    Polygon Polygon @Polygon🌶

    Can´t help any further; never came across an "Inkscape carbon MacOSX (carbon.xml)" - which sounds like an ancient Mac as we´re now on "macOS" since 7 years for instance.

  19. #19
    K K @fugueink

    I've switched to the default keyboard, although I went to the carbon.xml because I didn't like the default with my ancient Mac.

     

    When you can't afford a new computer, the "usable life" of your tech goes up a great deal.

  20. #20
    K K @fugueink

    Okay, I switched to default and restarted. I confirmed that the Shape Builder's Switch mode read "[NEVER]".

     

    And I am still getting the same effects I reported above.

  21. #21
    Polygon Polygon @Polygon🌶

    Can you describe your Mac/MacOSX specs in greater detail please. I'm under the impression your configuration is too special as to work fluently with the recent Inkscape builds. Just guessing here. (... and I know exactly the problems with A.......'s "lifestyle policy" when they refuse to repair my iMac a third time on the same identical issue.)

  22. #22
    K K @fugueink

    It's a MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012).

     

     

    Anything else you need?

  23. #23
    Polygon Polygon @Polygon🌶

    Does "Catalina" runs patch-free on that machine?

  24. #24
    K K @fugueink

    Yes. It's the highest system this MacBook can run without a patch.

  25. #25
    K K @fugueink

    Just FYI . . .

     

    I tried setting it to an obscure keystroke, but that didn't change anything.

     

    I have noticed that if I am using the Zoom Tool and switch to the Selector Tool, Inkscape always switches into the Shape Builder when I then hold down the Option key to use the arrow keys.

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