<Tavmjong> ================== Board Meeting ===================<Tavmjong> Who is here?* imageconstructor<Tavmjong> bryce, doctomon, JonCruz, karen, tedg, Scislac ?<karen> hi Tavmjong!<karen> o/<JonCruz> hi<Tavmjong> hi karen!<doctormon> Hi!<Tavmjong> I think Scislac will be a bit late.<karen> I've been sick this past week but I think my action item of getting you the FSA from Tony is done, thanks to Tony :D* bryce heys<Tavmjong> karen, Great! Have you sent it out yet?<karen> Tavmjong, you guys didn't get it?<karen> let me check<Tavmjong> karen, not that I know of...<bryce> I've not afaik<karen> whoops! He sent it just to me<karen> will pass it on<Tavmjong> FSA (Fiscal Sponsership Agreement) for those that don't know... our agreement with the SFC.* Moini (~maren@ip1f10af2f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) has joined #inkscape-devel<karen> sorry about that all<karen> just eyeballing it first<Tavmjong> karen, OK, so we can discuss it via email or at next weeks meeting.<Tavmjong> Topic: Hackfest -------------<Tavmjong> I think someone had a revised, revised version of The Pitch. Has it been put on the Hackfest page?<bryce> working on it* FailBit<karen> actually, I think Tony misunderstood. he has weekly meetings as the default way of carrying on business by the PLC<bryce> ran it by my wife and she did some copyediting. She's a gradeschool teacher so had to print it out to redline, so I gotta re-type. :-P<Tavmjong> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2015#The_Pitch<bryce> some particulars she mentioned...<bryce> she thought "buy a developer a beverage" makes it sound like we're going to be boozing it up and suggest dropping that<bryce> also suggested that instead of buy lunch for hackfest, to do a Business level at $500, and a Corporate level at $5000<bryce> or something quite high like that<Tavmjong> bryce, I kind of agree about the beverage thing...<bryce> also, offering perks for the corporate level, like including their logo on promotional materials or what not<bryce> something to give them extra justification for the sponsorship, that wouldn't cost us much<Tavmjong> bryce, What promotional material would we be producing?<Tavmjong> bryce, We could put their logo on the Hackfest page.<bryce> don't know. She was thinking like the conference web page and/or donation page, if we have brochures or handouts or presentation templates, etc. those'd be places.<Tavmjong> bryce, I kind of like the "Business level" rather than lunch as $500 for lunch for 12 hackers seems like a lot.<bryce> her original suggestion was "on your booth banner" but I admitted we didn't have a booth<bryce> yeah, that was what she suggested<bryce> one sec, children issue, bbias<Tavmjong> We might have a few talks at LGM where we could display the logo.<Tavmjong> Who's thinking about giving a talk at LGM?<karen> well you could put up a banner in the room with a sponsor name/logo<karen> yeah that works too<karen> good suggestions by your wide, bryce!<karen> s/wide/wife<Tavmjong> While we wait for bryce, any status report on the Donation page design?<Tavmjong> Who is doing the final design?<bryce> sorry, ok where was I<Tavmjong> bryce, Ways to reward sponsers...<bryce> oh last suggestion she metioned having an amount that is like the equiv of half an Adobe Illustrator license<bryce> (or perhaps a full license equivalent cost)<Tavmjong> How much is a license?<bryce> dunno. few hundred I'm guessing?<doctormon> bryce: Actually MO from Red"Hat had that idea ages ago<bryce> rest is just copyedits which I'll factor in<doctormon> I'd save that one for a yearly subscription offering<Tavmjong> https://creative.adobe.com/plans<bryce> doctormon, ah not a bad idea<Tavmjong> 25Euros/month for Illustrator (Individual)<Tavmjong> $20/month<JonCruz> Tavmjong: is that a monthly thing, or "easy payments" for an annual?<bryce> $360/yr + tax<JonCruz> Tavmjong: that sounds backwards. $ is less<JonCruz> Should be $31.26 currently<Tavmjong> JonCruz, It appears to be monthly. And yes, that seems backwards but it is what it is showing. It's the "Euro" tax.<JonCruz> aha!<doctormon> JonCruz: Never heard of RipOff Britain? Well known difference in prices between US and EU because of taxes and various other factors.<JonCruz> Tavmjong: beats the AU tax<bryce> $240/yr individual, $360/yr business<JonCruz> Where flying from AU to the US, buying the box there, then flying back was cheaper than buying in AU<Tavmjong> Yea, prices are often the same in $, Euros, and pounds; ignoring exchange rates.<bryce> ouch<JonCruz> same would be ok... but reverted is eeeks<doctormon> Prices for these things are arbitrary anyway. That's why open source is important to capitalists ;-)<Tavmjong> 1 Euro = 1.25 Dollars<Tavmjong> OK, back to business...<Tavmjong> So we could have a $120 level.<Tavmjong> ... which fills in a bit of the gap between $50 and $500* bryce nods<Tavmjong> bryce, You'll take an action to update The Pitch?<bryce> yep<bryce> one other thing, we need to be sure to highlight that donations are tax deductable. For some people that'll be a huge selling point.<bryce> besides we go to ample trouble to ensure we can say that, so we should! :-)<Tavmjong> Then back to my earlier question: Who is doing the actual donations page?<Tavmjong> Last week's mock-up: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvshnhd5algn2cb/mock1.svg<JonCruz> oh, yes. End of the year tax deductible push is good, as people suddenly start to think about IRS and consequences<karen> yes definitely<Tavmjong> So we need the page up and advertised before the end of the year!<karen> as a piece of inside info, Conservnacy is going to do an end of year campaign pretty soon<ScislaC> Sorry, traffic was worse than expected.<bryce> re: coordination/timing, I'm pretty confident we can have the release out before EOY<doctormon> Tavmjong: you mean https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/2180/<Tavmjong> doctormon, Yes, but it renders poorly in Firefox.<doctormon> Bitmap it then<JonCruz> eeek<doctormon> (also download available on that page)* Tavmjong Why does it look good in Inkscape but not Firefox?<ScislaC> it looks fine in crhome<ScislaC> chrome even<doctormon> looks good in my Firefox<bryce> revision work done - http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2015#Alternate_Pitch_language<ScislaC> doctormon: looks bad in my Firefox too<doctormon> Firefox v33 - Ubuntu<bryce> I've got 33 here, and it looks ok<Tavmjong> Firefox v33.1 - Fedora Could be a font thing?<bryce> well, regardless, next step here should be to paste those bits into an actual django page<Tavmjong> +1<karen> weird there's no picture in epiphany<bryce> who want's this task? Be a great way to dip your toes in django, shouldn't be too terribly hard.<doctormon> Under Donate > Hackfest 2015 ?<doctormon> bryce: The design requires absolutely no django, just html in the cms and probably a bit of css.<ScislaC> Firefox 33 here- http://imgur.com/mMT1Fg0<bryce> doctormon, well, presuming we have a top level Hackfest 2015 page for the event itself, where would that go?<doctormon> Top level? So either not in the menu at all, or we'd take away one of the other top level items. (which I wouldn't want to do)<bryce> doctormon, well by django I mean using the web administrative tool, not hacking on the guts. :-)<Tavmjong> doctormon, That might be hiding it too far down. We might temporarily replace our Donate page with the Hackfest one.<ScislaC> Tavmjong: +1 to that<bryce> doctormon, sheesh my phrasing is sucking today<bryce> I mean top level in the sense of like main landing page for the event. Not suggesting top level in the menu<Tavmjong> Hey, you don't have to be a board member to volunteer!<bryce> so like would you want Contribute -> Hackfests, or Develop -> Events -> Hackfest 2015, or ...?<FailBit> hmm<FailBit> https://i.imgur.com/zEjBCJh.png<Moini> I'll do it, on two conditions: 1) I need a good picture which we may use (so someone needs to ask) 2) doctormon needs to allow some more tags/css stuff in the editor, or we won't get any green boxes.<bryce> hmm, although now that I think about it, having the donation "campaign" as a sub-item under Donate makes a huge amount of sense. We can just cross-link there from whereever we put other hackfest pages<doctormon> bryce, Moini: https://inkscape.org/en/donate/hackfest/<Tavmjong> doctormon, Can you help out Moini?<bryce> Moini, thanks!<Moini> :)<Tavmjong> I can do the asking about permission to use the photo.<doctormon> Moini and I are help buddies Tavmjong :-)<Moini> Tav, Thanks!<Moini> So, is the alternate pitch agreed on?<doctormon> Moini: Dot he green boxes and pass me the css, I'll add it to main.css as a core style. We can add class attributes right?<Moini> Not sure.<karen> oh! on the text we should say: All donations are fully tax deductable *to the extent permitted by law*<Moini> doctormon, Yes.<karen> because they will not be deductible to all donors, depending on where they are<doctormon> About to reset the webserver, hold hats<bryce> karen, ok<karen> thanks bryce<Tavmjong> $5 – ??* FailBit tightly gripping hat<Tavmjong> $120 – Half of a year's subscription to a proprietary drawing program.<Tavmjong> Moini, I would go ahead with the Alternative Pitch language and then we can tweak it if necessary.<Moini> Tav, great!<bryce> ok, updated with those suggestions<bryce> not sure what to say for $5. open to suggestions<bryce> could make it $10 and say "Buys one lunch"<bryce> or Covers one lunch or whatever<bryce> Tavmjong, maybe we can do a show of hands for if everyone prefers the current Alt Pitch, so we can drop the other text?<bryce> +1 Alt Pitch<Tavmjong> +1 Alt Pitch<doctormon> Moini: Did you have a patch for allowing styles in the chkeditor?<ScislaC> +1 Alt Pitch<Moini> doctormon, no, I only know that this requires editing of a settings file for CKEditor.<Tavmjong> JonCruz, tedg: Opinions on pitch? Anybody else?<Moini> Who has the donation button details?<bryce> I do<bryce> where should I post them?<JonCruz> +1 Alt Pitch<Moini> Bryce, you could paste them in directly - or put them into your Inkscape, as long as there are no privacy concerns<bryce> I'll paste them at inkscape.org, one sec<Tavmjong> bryce, I think we can drop the original pitch text.<bryce> Moini, https://inkscape.org/en/paste/2438/<Moini> Bryce, thanks, I meant Inkspace, of course ;)<bryce> Tavmjong, great, will do. It'll still be in the page changelog history for reference<Tavmjong> Any other urgent business as I'll be needing to go soon.<doctormon> bryce: You editing the page on live or is that Moini?<bryce> btw I also got Bradley's directions for querying the donation amounts from Ledger.<Moini> That's me.<bryce> doctormon, I've only been editing the Hackfest2015 wiki page<doctormon> oh ok. I updated config.js to test the styles<bryce> one last thing... I'd like all board members to send in their gpg pubkeys<doctormon> Moini: Looks like you have full access to the style sheets. Also you knocked out my resized photo, so I'm about to put it back.<JonCruz> aaagh. keys. bleah. management<bryce> well, board members plus anyone administrating anything, so that includes doctormon* Ademan (~dan@108.66.134.195) has joined #inkscape-devel<Tavmjong> doctormon, We need to get permission to use the photo first...<JonCruz> any suggestions on keygen? I think I'm about due<doctormon> Tavmjong: understood, Moini I'm holding off on the photo.<doctormon> bryce: I'm a non-bored member ;-)<bryce> JonCruz, steps 1, 2, and 3 of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/credentials/view/head:/README<JonCruz> RSA 4096 bit still good?<bryce> JonCruz, shouldn't it?<bryce> JonCruz, yes: "Pick RSA with a keylength of 4096 bits"<bryce> Tavmjong, ok good point to close the meeting.<Tavmjong> See you all next week (if not before)...<doctormon> Thanks Tavmjong<ScislaC> Thanks everyone, sorry I was late.
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