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Beginners' Questions Problems using the intersection tool with text.
  1. #1
    Linuxmobile Linuxmobile @Linuxmobile

    Hi guys, when I want to use the intersection tool to divide the text, it turns out that it doesn't work for me.

    I will attach a video of the problem.

  2. #2
    Polygon Polygon @Polygon🌶

    Seems you´re using Inkscape 1.x. Since its release this behaviour changed: previously we just needed for instance a rectangle and a text and Path->difference punched the text out of the rectangle.

    Now everything needs to be a path. But Text converted to Path is a group in a first instance - so you´ll need to ungroup and combine before you can use Path-Difference. It´s the pest - even worse: a single stroke becomes a group now - for no (I mean absolut no logical/understandable) reason. If one find this helpful I´d like to know why.

  3. #3
    Xav Xav @Xav👹
    PixelPest

    even worse: a single stroke becomes a group now - for no (I mean absolut no logical/understandable) reason

    If you mean using Stroke to Path on a single stroke, we've discussed this one before. If you have a stroke with no fill, and no markers then the behaviour is as before: no group. If you have a fill or markers, however, you get a group with each part of your shape as a separate element within it. This is actually just an extension of the behaviour from 0.92, where Inkscape already created a group if there were markers set - 1.0 just extends that to the fill as well.

    As for the reason: I think it's to avoid confusing new users when parts of their path vanish (after all, it's called 'Stroke to path', not 'Stroke to path and forget all the other properties I set'. There's a good argument that choosing either of the '... to Path' entries should convert the objects but not change their appearance; that's how Inkscape now behaves.

  4. #4
    Polygon Polygon @Polygon🌶

    It's nice how you explain and justify the new code - but in my eyes the new implementation is far away from any everyday use and a big nuisance. So is the new text/boolean handling; absolutely useless and complicating the simplest tasks.

    As long and as much as I've been using Inkscape since 2004, I can't use it with these behaviours any longer and will return to my old version of 2015 and discontinue support for 1.0 from now on.

  5. #5
    Xav Xav @Xav👹

    I agree entirely that the current text/boolean handling is a terrible step backwards. But I'm not seeing the behaviour you are when using Stroke to Path on a path with no fill or markers:

     

    Based on the release notes, I believe that what I'm seeing is the intended behaviour, which raises a question about why your installation behaves differently.

  6. #6
    Aero Aero @Aero◻️

    Did a quick test in Windows 10. Seems like Pixelpest is using 1.1 (Master) and Xav is using 1.0.

    There is a difference in behaviour between these two versions.

  7. #7
    Tyler Durden Tyler Durden @TylerDurden

    PIxelPest is on a Mac, IIRC.

    Text booleans were better in .92xx, IMO

    The behavior of Stroke to Path is now similar to other vector programs like Ai, Corel, Affinity.

  8. #8
    Polygon Polygon @Polygon🌶
    👍

    I don´t have AI nor Corel but Affinity (all 3) from day 1 - and there it´s: "Layer->Expand stroke" - done - no stupid group - no hidden path - just a color filled shape.

  9. #9
    Aero Aero @Aero◻️
    PixelPest

    "Layer->Expand stroke" - done - no stupid group - no hidden path - just a color filled shape.

    I can confirm this, both for Affinity and Corel.

  10. #10
    Xav Xav @Xav👹
    TylerDurden

    PIxelPest is on a Mac, IIRC.

    I've just tried 1.0 on a Mac and see the same behaviour as on my Linux box.

     

    Aero

    Seems like Pixelpest is using 1.1 (Master)

    Can you confirm if that's the case PP? If that's the future behaviour of the program then I agree it's a step backwards - but there might still be an opportunity to get it reverted before there's a formal release.

  11. #11
    Tyler Durden Tyler Durden @TylerDurden
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    Not grouped, but two new objects.  Earlier Inkscape behavior: the stroke became the object and the fill went away.

    Illustrator Stroke2Path
  12. #12
    Tyler Durden Tyler Durden @TylerDurden

    Not seeing the same single line behavior as PP in v1.0 under Mint. (No group, single filled object.)

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