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Beginners' Questions Path Union Not Working - Inkscape Beta
  1. #1
    danielleskrine danielleskrine @danielleskrine

    I accidentally updated my computer to the new Catalina update and now have to use the Inkscape Beta version. The Path > Union feature doesn't work (I'm only creating a union between three pieces of text, which I've always done) and now I get an error that says "one of these objects is not a path, cannot perform boolean function". Can anybody please help with this? 

  2. #2
    Maren Hachmann Maren Hachmann @Moini

    Can you share the file?

  3. #3
    Flamingolady Flamingolady @flamingolady🦩

    hi Daniel, and welcome to the forum.  First, I'd advise you to keep a copy of the text on a hiden layer, just in case you need it later.  To union text, you need to change it to a path first.  So choose the text, do path>obj to path, then click on ungroup, with text, each character becomes it's own group.  You can click on the node tool to check that it's a path.  Once you can see each character individually, then you can union them. Let us know if you have any troubles. 

  4. #4
    danielleskrine danielleskrine @danielleskrine

    Hi! Thank you for your replies! I'm so new to this.. how can I attach photos or my file to show you what the problem is? I use the designs in Inkscape to then send to Silhouette Studios. When I tried the solution you sent, Flamingolady, when I open the file in Silhouette, all of the letters are connected by lines from the top corner of one of my words, so it doesn't really work for me. I never had this issue with the previous version of Inkscape, seems the Beta version is what's giving me a hard time. I'm so disappointed I updated my laptop :( 

  5. #5
    Maren Hachmann Maren Hachmann @Moini

    Just to clarify:

    Text does not need to be changed to a path before one can use Path > Union. This is the case for a couple Inkscape versions already. You can save yourself the ungrouping and that 'to path' step.

    To attach a file, click on the paperclip icon below.

  6. #6
    Flamingolady Flamingolady @flamingolady🦩

    danaiellskrine.  ps you can download the latest stable version of inkscape and use both versions, as long as they are in diff folders. Maybe that would resolve the issue?  I recently downloaded the beta and created a folder with a diff name to install into.  Then you could try the above steps using the older, stable version. Cant say if that's the problem though, but perhaps worth a try.  As Maren said, we'd need to see your file, as I can't imagine what could be causing that issue.

    Maren, didn't know that, thanks.

  7. #7
    danielleskrine danielleskrine @danielleskrine

    I've uploaded two screenshots - the one with all of the lines connecting is what happened when I did the ungrouping, and then path > union. And the other screenshot was just "path > union" in the Beta version. I was using the older version and simply doing path > union with my text with no issues. Only started having troubles today after the Catalina update. I've also attached the svg file. 

    As for downloading both versions, I can't seem to get that to work. When I download the most recent stable version, it downloads with a circle/cross through it - the Beta version is the only one that opens.

    Screen Shot 2019 10 13 At 12.39.16 Pm
    Screen Shot 2019 10 13 At 12.39.08 Pm
    Test Iskanders
  8. #8
    Maren Hachmann Maren Hachmann @Moini

    Okay... so the screenshots are from Silhouette Studio, right? I can't help with that, it's a proprietary software that I do not have installed. I could help figure things out, if you could provide an SVG file *before the union* and exact steps how you get the result that you do not want to get.

    'Path > Union' seems to currently work like 'Path > Object to path' with a text object ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/issues/1020 )... Not sure if that causes your problem, impossible to say without the original file and concrete steps (so Flamingolady is correct for 1.0beta, but this is a bug).

    It's true that the older Inkscape version does not work on Catalina at all.

  9. #9
    danielleskrine danielleskrine @danielleskrine

    Hi Maren,

    Thanks very much for the reply. Yes, you're right, those are from Silhouette. I've attached my svg file before any union. So, I have three text boxes and normally I would just highlight all three, select path > union and we'd be good to go. That's pretty much the extent of the features I use on Inkscape. So now, it gives me an error message. And then when I open in Silhouette, that's where the issue is as well. Any help is greatly appreciated! 

    Any word on when a new Catalina compatible Inkscape version will be available?

    Iskanders Test
  10. #10
    Flamingolady Flamingolady @flamingolady🦩

    I can't help with Sihlouette Studio either, not even sure what it is.  Not entirely sure what Catalina is - for a mac or linux perhaps...  I've never seen lines like that, almost like an umbilical cord.  Does it happen with any other fonts or just that one?

    At any rate, as Maren said, if you could attach the actual svg, perhaps we could test it on our end. As for installing 2 versions of inkscape, I had a little trouble too, to be honest.  I created a folder called Inkscape 1.0 first (in my C:\program files (86), then selected that folder via browse upon installation, yours might be in your c: program files without the (86). 

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    Maren Hachmann Maren Hachmann @Moini

    Yes, so that seems to be the bug report I just created and linked to. Some of us also have 0.92.4 available. Do you want us to do the union thing for you?

    The beta version is the compatible version. I think you already have that installed, so I don't understand the question. Do you want to know when the bug will be fixed?

    You haven't mentioned an error message yet. I don't get one, not sure where or what. Can you clarify?

    Flamingolady, that will not work on a Mac :-(

  12. #12
    Flamingolady Flamingolady @flamingolady🦩

    ok, thx Maren, wasn't sure if catalina was a mac or what.  Now I'm thinking she could uninstall Inkscape entirely and reinstall the last stable version for her op sys.  At least that would get the path union working again... unless you have a better idea Maren?

  13. #13
    danielleskrine danielleskrine @danielleskrine

    The error message I get when trying to do path > union between those three text boxes in the file I sent  is “one of these objects is not a path, cannot perform Boolean function” in the beta version. 

  14. #14
    Maren Hachmann Maren Hachmann @Moini

    Flamingolady, that won't work. Inkscape 0.92.2 doesn't run on Catalina (which is the latest macOS version)

    Danielleskrine, yet another bug... Maybe already reported?

  15. #15
    Maren Hachmann Maren Hachmann @Moini

    Click+drag texts don't work with 'Union' at all in the beta. Use click and type texts, with no dragging, to get at least sth. convertible. Won't help a lot, but maybe a bit.

  16. #16
    Flamingolady Flamingolady @flamingolady🦩

    Without seeing the svg file, it's really hard for us to tell you what isn't working, we're just guessing.  If you select each object separately, what does the status bar say? If you click on the node tool, does everything have nodes? Perhaps you need to click on each text and click un group to ensure that it's not still grouped... 

  17. #17
    Maren Hachmann Maren Hachmann @Moini

    https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/issues/1021

  18. #18
    danielleskrine danielleskrine @danielleskrine

    Thank you both so much for your help! I did attach the svg file I was working with, Flamingolady. Not sure if it helps at all though! Just seems to be an issue with the Beta version like you've said. Guess I will just have to wait and hope a new stable compatible version comes out soon :( 

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