Home » Bryce Harrington » Resources » PasteBin » Board Meeting - February 2, 2018
  1. Feb 02 09:21:54 <crogers> Hello. am I late for the meeting?
  2. Feb 02 09:23:18 <crogers> hopefully early this time.
  3. Feb 02 10:01:48 <ninjablade20001> Test
  4. Feb 02 10:05:02 <cajhne> lo.
  5. Feb 02 10:05:05 <cajhne> Meetingnow?
  6. Feb 02 10:08:49 <Ede_123> I think so... maybe bryce is late...
  7. Feb 02 10:09:09 <cajhne> Ahn, no problrm.
  8. Feb 02 10:09:28 * cajhne snarfs pizzaand waits.
  9. Feb 02 10:15:30 <doctormon> I'm here anyway!
  10. Feb 02 10:15:37 <doctormon> crogers: How goes stickers?
  11. Feb 02 10:16:50 <brynn> just loggged on myself, but only planning to observe
  12. Feb 02 10:17:00 <crogers> doctormon: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6sxxmpvbzs6xlte/foil_sticker_photo.jpg?dl=1
  13. Feb 02 10:17:23 * ninjablade20001 <-- Is actually Ryan trying to figure out why he can't get in with his other IRC client
  14. Feb 02 10:17:24 <crogers> Cutting and sending them out this weekend.
  15. Feb 02 10:19:10 <doctormon> crogers: I have a new system76 laptop that is begging for a sticker as glorious.
  16. Feb 02 10:21:44 <crogers> You'll have enough to cover it completely as soon as I have them cut. :)
  17. Feb 02 10:22:20 <crogers> Well, + shipping time.
  18. Feb 02 10:22:50 <crogers> Working on a similar set for the boston hackfest
  19. Feb 02 10:22:59 <crogers> but much lower quantity.
  20. Feb 02 10:25:19 <doctormon> crogers: Amazing work as always.
  21. Feb 02 10:25:27 <ninjablade20001> Any guesses as to why I (ryangorley) can join the #inkscape channel with the Matrix IRC bridge, but not #inkscape-devel?
  22. Feb 02 10:26:13 <doctormon> ninjablade20001: None, although I know we used to constrain people to being voiced before they could join (i.e. registering with nickserv)
  23. Feb 02 10:26:48 * ninjablade20001 scratches head
  24. Feb 02 10:27:14 * ninjablade20001 wishes he picked a less-stupid temporary name
  25. Feb 02 10:29:19 <crogers> doctormon: Thanks!
  26. Feb 02 10:29:38 <crogers> Inkscape makes it much easier. :)
  27. Feb 02 10:30:30 <crogers> Loving that intelligent file save feature Mc added in the Linux version. Have you tried it?
  28. Feb 02 10:37:14 <crogers> also, doctormon, do you think it's better to include a famous landmark from boston, or a rendition of the Redhat building facade?
  29. Feb 02 10:37:41 <crogers> on the hackfest sticker?
  30. Feb 02 10:38:08 <crogers> I'm torn. This is just crying out for an inkscape logo in the triangle. ;D
  31. Feb 02 10:38:10 <crogers> http://jmbco.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/300-A-Street-Views_entrance_FINAL1.jpg
  32. Feb 02 10:40:55 <brynn> 2 different stickers?
  33. Feb 02 10:40:59 <crogers> before the location was settled, I started to use this building instead: https://www.bu.edu/today/files/2011/11/h_FanueilHall_06-2044C_163.jpg
  34. Feb 02 10:41:26 <crogers> brynn: Yea, one for the hackfest attendees
  35. Feb 02 10:41:35 <crogers> and the other for general inkscape use.
  36. Feb 02 10:42:16 <brynn> No, I meant solve the problem of what to put on the sticker, by having 2 different stickers.
  37. Feb 02 10:42:20 <crogers> I have 1k (minus a few) of the general use inkscape stickers printed.
  38. Feb 02 10:42:25 <crogers> ahh
  39. Feb 02 10:43:00 <crogers> I think I only have enough money to order one. :/
  40. Feb 02 10:43:27 <brynn> oic - just a thought
  41. Feb 02 10:45:19 <crogers> I guess I'm not sure how many people would recognise that landmark building.
  42. Feb 02 10:45:43 <crogers> Or if there will be a Tour around town by doctormon.
  43. Feb 02 10:46:23 <crogers> At least with the Eiffel Tower we did actually break free to go see it. :)
  44. Feb 02 10:50:26 <bryce> hi
  45. Feb 02 10:50:36 <crogers> hey bryce
  46. Feb 02 10:50:46 <bryce> crap am I off an hour this time?
  47. Feb 02 10:50:53 <crogers> nearly. :)
  48. Feb 02 10:51:03 <crogers> Either that or I'm way early
  49. Feb 02 10:51:15 <crogers> but no meeting has been yet.
  50. Feb 02 10:51:30 <bryce> oh I am, I did announce it for 10am
  51. Feb 02 10:51:42 <bryce> terribly sorry, I thought it was at 11
  52. Feb 02 10:51:50 * crogers head noddles
  53. Feb 02 10:51:56 <crogers> Not a problem for me.
  54. Feb 02 10:52:45 <bryce> evidently something's wrong with my brain
  55. Feb 02 10:52:54 <bryce> anyway let's go ahead and get started then. again super sorry
  56. Feb 02 10:53:01 <crogers> I ran home with a pizza slice hanging out of my mouth, so I was happy to have some eating time.
  57. Feb 02 10:53:14 <bryce> === Meeting ===
  58. Feb 02 10:53:29 <bryce> Agenda:
  59. Feb 02 10:53:29 <bryce> + Madras Printer's and Lithographers' Association
  60. Feb 02 10:53:29 <bryce> + Boston Hackfest (March) [doctormo]
  61. Feb 02 10:53:29 <bryce> + Merchandise sales [crogers]
  62. Feb 02 10:53:29 <bryce> + Board election process review [tedg]
  63. Feb 02 10:53:29 <bryce> + Infrastructure hosting [bryce]
  64. Feb 02 10:53:29 <bryce> + LGM 2018 [Tav]
  65. Feb 02 10:53:29 <bryce> + GSoC [ScislaC]
  66. Feb 02 10:53:29 <bryce> + Other Business
  67. Feb 02 10:53:44 <ScislaC> HOLA!!!
  68. Feb 02 10:54:52 <bryce> crogers, ScislaC Mc, Tavmjong, tedg, doctormon: Board meeting starting (1 hr late, my fault)
  69. Feb 02 10:55:28 <ScislaC> Luckily I was at my comp and say a notification when you said my name a min ago.
  70. Feb 02 10:55:58 <bryce> ah :-)
  71. Feb 02 10:56:13 <crogers> So I guess the Printer folks want some inkscape features to free themselves from Adobe, and CorelDraw.
  72. Feb 02 10:56:17 <bryce> I was up super late watching finale of Westworld and got going slow this morning
  73. Feb 02 10:56:35 <bryce> === MPLA Sponsorship ===
  74. Feb 02 10:56:37 <tedg> Oh, that's great actually. Just got back from getting antibiotics for a kiddo.
  75. Feb 02 10:56:53 <bryce> right crogers, I pinged them and got a bit more info of what they're interested in:
  76. Feb 02 10:57:35 <crogers> neat
  77. Feb 02 10:58:29 <bryce> """As I have already mentioned I want the software
  78. Feb 02 10:58:29 <bryce> competent enough to process the illustrator and corel files.
  79. Feb 02 10:58:29 <bryce> In most cases when we print or rip the files the clipping masks are open
  80. Feb 02 10:58:29 <bryce> and eps files can not be imported into inkskape. Please inform
  81. Feb 02 10:58:29 <bryce> what type of help you need so that we can discuss with our members and
  82. Feb 02 10:58:29 <bryce> revert."""
  83. Feb 02 10:59:26 <Moini> For the second issue, there's an FAQ item.
  84. Feb 02 10:59:40 <bryce> Moini, oh?
  85. Feb 02 10:59:52 <Moini> Basically, install ghostscript.
  86. Feb 02 11:00:09 <Moini> Don't know how well it all works, might have issues.
  87. Feb 02 11:00:15 <doctormon> Hi bryce
  88. Feb 02 11:00:19 <crogers> Yea, I use gs to do cmyk conversions.
  89. Feb 02 11:00:22 <bryce> I think it's a good sign that the issue they're interested in is a file import issue, that suggests they've got some tangible needs
  90. Feb 02 11:00:34 <crogers> I guess it would be better to include the features in Inkscape proper.
  91. Feb 02 11:00:53 <doctormon> crogers: It's better to symbolise tea being dumped into the harbour ;-)
  92. Feb 02 11:00:57 <bryce> also that particular issue feels like it might be more tractable than, say, revamping color management or other more substantial print features
  93. Feb 02 11:01:13 <Moini> https://inkscape.org/en/learn/faq/#how-open-eps-files-windows
  94. Feb 02 11:01:18 <bryce> Moini, thanks
  95. Feb 02 11:01:27 <crogers> doctormon: I'll think that one over. ;)
  96. Feb 02 11:02:00 <doctormon> crogers: Or do the old ironsides ship with all the rigging.
  97. Feb 02 11:02:08 <bryce> given this feedback, how do you guys think we should move ahead on this sponsorship?
  98. Feb 02 11:02:21 <crogers> doctormon: hehe, msg me later, we'll brainstorm.
  99. Feb 02 11:03:13 <tedg> bryce: +1, I think it makes sense. We'll see how their needs grow, but hopefully we can grow with them.
  100. Feb 02 11:03:24 <crogers> Guess we need developer volunteers for specific bits.
  101. Feb 02 11:03:56 <crogers> Maybe a roadmap for completion of their primary items would help see how big the mountain is.
  102. Feb 02 11:04:08 <doctormon> bryce: What worries me is that we'll be asking for specific work to be done for money. Can we do a partnership with one of our inkscape workers and split the money?
  103. Feb 02 11:04:24 <tedg> Wait, are they asking for specific work to be done? I don't get that.
  104. Feb 02 11:04:53 <doctormon> Maybe I was reading it wrong, but they seemed to want sponsorship is exchange for specific help/fixes.
  105. Feb 02 11:05:09 <crogers> I get that impression too.
  106. Feb 02 11:05:30 <ScislaC> From what I've seen it comes across like that.
  107. Feb 02 11:05:31 <bryce> yeah, I'm not sure that's kosher through general sponsorship
  108. Feb 02 11:05:34 <crogers> I mean, you'd need specific things done to do what they require, so...
  109. Feb 02 11:06:29 <ScislaC> It sounds like conditional sponsorship (which I'm not against if we have the dev availability/interest to meet their needs).
  110. Feb 02 11:06:34 <crogers> Or at least someone with a progress report on their specific items.
  111. Feb 02 11:06:40 <doctormon> bryce: We could always bring their sponsrhip into a lower band and bridge them into a contract with one of the workers out of band
  112. Feb 02 11:07:32 <tedg> Yes, I think we need to separate pay for work and the sponsorship. Or at least we need to be clear with them that sponsorship doesn't buy they dev time.
  113. Feb 02 11:07:42 <bryce> possibly yeah, we've done paid development in other ways, that may be a better fit than general sponsorship
  114. Feb 02 11:08:10 <crogers> Yea, sounds better to me too. Direct accountability is required I think.
  115. Feb 02 11:08:26 <bryce> I'm not 100% sure that's what he's asking, versus just describing the pain points they see
  116. Feb 02 11:09:14 <bryce> ok, well that seems like a good place to proceed at least initially.
  117. Feb 02 11:10:32 <crogers> They want compatibility with corel draw and Illustrator files.
  118. Feb 02 11:10:33 <doctormon> bryce: With the risk it will scare them away. I think it's still good to proceed to ask for clarity
  119. Feb 02 11:10:41 <crogers> There's already some of that.
  120. Feb 02 11:11:08 <crogers> but the specific problem with the eps is something that someone can do.
  121. Feb 02 11:11:09 <bryce> ACTION: Follow up with MPLA to clarify on funded development and general sponsorship options
  122. Feb 02 11:11:14 <bryce> ACTION: Follow up with MPLA to clarify on funded development and general sponsorship options [bryce]
  123. Feb 02 11:12:15 <bryce> ACTION: Analyze how we could improve internal handling of Illustrator and Corel file import
  124. Feb 02 11:12:30 <crogers> specifically with regard to eps.
  125. Feb 02 11:12:53 <crogers> to be fair, Inkscape does a pretty good job of it already apart from the eps issue.
  126. Feb 02 11:13:21 <bryce> crogers, would you mind taking that task? it's not development just defining the problem (and looking up any relevant bug #'s or established plans)?
  127. Feb 02 11:13:27 <crogers> Had no problems opening and reskinning a cdr file last week from one of our package suppliers.
  128. Feb 02 11:13:38 <crogers> Sure, okay.
  129. Feb 02 11:13:42 <bryce> thanks
  130. Feb 02 11:13:46 <bryce> ACTION: Analyze how we could improve internal handling of Illustrator and Corel file import [crogers]
  131. Feb 02 11:13:55 <crogers> I'll ask for some test files too, so we can begin poking at it.
  132. Feb 02 11:13:57 <bryce> ok anything else on MPLA sponsorship or shall we move ahead?
  133. Feb 02 11:14:05 <bryce> crogers, perfect.
  134. Feb 02 11:14:52 <bryce> == Boston Hackfest ==
  135. Feb 02 11:15:05 <bryce> doctormon, want to bring us up to date on plans?
  136. Feb 02 11:15:09 <doctormon> Hello there boys and girls
  137. Feb 02 11:15:39 <doctormon> The hackfest is a go, we have a confirmation from RedHat that our dates and times are good and we can proceed to start organising flights and places to stay
  138. Feb 02 11:15:57 <doctormon> We should at this stage start reaching out to people who we want to come.
  139. Feb 02 11:16:10 <doctormon> Such as the idea of inviting previous contributors
  140. Feb 02 11:16:54 <doctormon> tedg: Would you do this one off task to collect just a couple of strong US based contributors from the history books and email them?
  141. Feb 02 11:16:57 <bryce> ACTION: Start reaching out to people (including previous contributors) to attend the hackfest.
  142. Feb 02 11:17:26 <bryce> takers for that task?
  143. Feb 02 11:17:27 <tedg> doctormon: Who are you thinking?
  144. Feb 02 11:17:54 <doctormon> tedg: Anyone that can code, us based, has contributed, ordered by most contributors
  145. Feb 02 11:17:57 <doctormon> contributions*
  146. Feb 02 11:19:01 <tedg> Hmm, I don't mind doing it, but I don't have good ideas about who that'd be.
  147. Feb 02 11:19:04 <tedg> I can ask around.
  148. Feb 02 11:19:08 <doctormon> Thanks!
  149. Feb 02 11:19:34 <bryce> ACTION: Start reaching out to people (including previous contributors) to attend the hackfest. [tedg]
  150. Feb 02 11:19:58 <doctormon> I've been thinking about where to host the dinner and things people can do while here. But that's early days, I'd really like to get that atendees list up from 3 outsiders :-D
  151. Feb 02 11:20:29 <bryce> thanks tedg. I'd be happy to brainstorm with you offline.
  152. Feb 02 11:20:41 <doctormon> Any other items for the hackfest anyone can think up?
  153. Feb 02 11:20:44 <tedg> bryce: Sounds good.
  154. Feb 02 11:20:54 <ryangorley2> How have the donations been?
  155. Feb 02 11:21:08 <bryce> ryangorley2, let me check
  156. Feb 02 11:21:17 <bryce> might still be too early to tell tho
  157. Feb 02 11:21:41 <tedg> They seem to take a while to make it through the system.
  158. Feb 02 11:22:13 <bryce> yeah they're only up to 1-13
  159. Feb 02 11:22:19 <bryce> so no info yet, sorry
  160. Feb 02 11:22:25 <ryangorley2> If we need to get more aggressive on the promotion on the site, let me and doctormon know. I'm thinking a scrolling marque may be the next step ;)
  161. Feb 02 11:22:56 <ryangorley2> marquee*
  162. Feb 02 11:23:11 <crogers> bryce: quick q - do you want to be copied in on my discussions with the printing folks?
  163. Feb 02 11:23:15 <bryce> crogers, yes please
  164. Feb 02 11:24:24 <ryangorley2> I probably need to know if the board sees value in my attending the hackfest sooner than later. Doesn't have to be right now, but I'm noticing the cost of flights increasing.
  165. Feb 02 11:24:35 <bryce> ryangorley2, yeah maybe worth sending a heads up on social media
  166. Feb 02 11:24:38 <crogers> regarding the hackfest, maybe we can lure people with stickers. :D
  167. Feb 02 11:24:49 <bryce> ryangorley2, yes definitely would love to have you there
  168. Feb 02 11:25:40 <ryangorley2> We'll discuss promotion at the Vectors meeting tomorrow. I have an article drafted and we'll hit social as well.
  169. Feb 02 11:25:46 <crogers> I'd like to have my funds dedicated to help ryangorley2 with airfare, if that's okay.
  170. Feb 02 11:26:26 <doctormon> ryangorley2: I'd like to see you there
  171. Feb 02 11:26:30 <doctormon> (here)*
  172. Feb 02 11:26:33 <crogers> I can't make this hackfest in person (as much as I want to)
  173. Feb 02 11:26:57 <doctormon> crogers: You going to the Europe one?
  174. Feb 02 11:27:34 <crogers> Probably not, unfortunately. :/
  175. Feb 02 11:28:06 <crogers> I can provide stickers for it though. :D
  176. Feb 02 11:28:35 <ScislaC> ryangorley2: BTW, are you signed up for SCALE?
  177. Feb 02 11:28:41 <crogers> It's the mini hackfest in Madrid, right?
  178. Feb 02 11:28:51 <crogers> Did anyone confirm anything about that?
  179. Feb 02 11:28:53 <ryangorley2> ScislaC: I'm presenting at SCaLE actually
  180. Feb 02 11:29:43 <Moini> crogers: Sevilla, at LGM. Attendees list:
  181. Feb 02 11:29:45 <Moini> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2018_LGM_Attendees
  182. Feb 02 11:29:56 <crogers> thanks Moini
  183. Feb 02 11:30:30 <bryce> For the 2016 hackfest, we did a special vote to cover Olof Bjarnason's attendance. So there's precedent for doing special case travel arrangements.
  184. Feb 02 11:30:39 <tedg> ScislaC: Are you gonna be at SCALE?
  185. Feb 02 11:31:04 <bryce> So, seems like we could certainly consider special cases for this hackfest too. And I agree ryan would make a ton of sense.
  186. Feb 02 11:31:25 <ScislaC> tedg: Indeed I will.
  187. Feb 02 11:31:25 <tedg> +1, I think so as well.
  188. Feb 02 11:31:51 <bryce> ryangorley2, can you send me an estimate of your travel costs for the hackfest that we can vote on?
  189. Feb 02 11:32:48 <ryangorley2> bryce: Yes, will do. Already looked it up and discussed with doctormon
  190. Feb 02 11:32:51 <tedg> ScislaC: Cool, I should be there as well. Realizing I just let my held flight expire though...
  191. Feb 02 11:32:56 <bryce> ok great
  192. Feb 02 11:33:12 <tedg> ScislaC: You, me and ryangorley2 need to meet up.
  193. Feb 02 11:33:18 <ryangorley2> Yes!
  194. Feb 02 11:34:53 <bryce> AACTION: Arrange votes for any special case travelers for hackfest. [bryce]
  195. Feb 02 11:35:02 <bryce> ok, anything else on hackfest? else next item...
  196. Feb 02 11:35:23 <bryce> === Merchandise Sales ===
  197. Feb 02 11:35:45 <bryce> crogers, sounds like good progress on the sticker front?
  198. Feb 02 11:35:52 <crogers> heh, yes.
  199. Feb 02 11:35:57 <crogers> At least that.
  200. Feb 02 11:36:11 <crogers> In fact, let's call that progress and move on to the next item for now. ;P
  201. Feb 02 11:36:42 <doctormon> What did you do? ;-)
  202. Feb 02 11:36:58 <crogers> Well I still haven't logged in, so... :)
  203. Feb 02 11:37:00 <Tavmjong> Hi!
  204. Feb 02 11:37:08 <crogers> Hey Tavmjong. :)
  205. Feb 02 11:37:11 <Tavmjong> Sorry to be late...
  206. Feb 02 11:37:16 <bryce> actually one other positive news on merchandising front...
  207. Feb 02 11:37:33 <bryce> I think I mentioned last meeting that money hadn't been showing up for our Spreadshirt sales
  208. Feb 02 11:38:09 <bryce> I still haven't heard back on my questions to SFC about it, however I discovered last week that we had an entry 12/19 for $38.91 from spreadshirt sales.
  209. Feb 02 11:38:18 <crogers> nice
  210. Feb 02 11:38:33 <crogers> This is what the stickers look like for anyone interested: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6sxxmpvbzs6xlte/foil_sticker_photo.jpg?dl=1
  211. Feb 02 11:38:44 <bryce> that represents 5 purchases made between 12/3/2016 and 12/7/2016.
  212. Feb 02 11:38:44 <crogers> They cam in yesterday.
  213. Feb 02 11:38:54 <tedg> crogers: Very nice!
  214. Feb 02 11:38:56 <bryce> oh btw that was 12/19/2016 not 2017.
  215. Feb 02 11:39:04 <bryce> so guessing that was our set of test purchases.
  216. Feb 02 11:39:08 <doctormon> lol
  217. Feb 02 11:39:17 <crogers> haha
  218. Feb 02 11:39:23 <tedg> bryce: Hehe, we're totally on top of it. :-)
  219. Feb 02 11:39:34 <bryce> there were some emails from spreadshirt a couple months ago about an additional sale or two, no evidence of that.
  220. Feb 02 11:39:44 <bryce> but I'm going to call it positive progress anyway. :-0
  221. Feb 02 11:40:10 <crogers> I'll someday be able to decrypt the username and password. :D
  222. Feb 02 11:40:11 <bryce> if nothing else I think we don't need to consider that issue a blocker anymore
  223. Feb 02 11:40:25 <bryce> crogers, oh no, :-(
  224. Feb 02 11:40:47 <crogers> Yea, well, plenty to do stickerwise presently, so no big deal.
  225. Feb 02 11:41:33 <crogers> once I get the other two stickers done, I'll try again.
  226. Feb 02 11:41:56 <bryce> crogers, did someone try sending you it in a discrete gpg file (as opposed to encrypted by an email client?)
  227. Feb 02 11:42:12 <crogers> not exactly. :)
  228. Feb 02 11:42:15 <doctormon> I really wish we had a floss focused merch business like dftba is for youtube, so much easier when you have an industry focused business.
  229. Feb 02 11:43:14 <bryce> there is no restriction on the number of merch biz's we get established with except just the manpower to get them up and running
  230. Feb 02 11:43:20 <crogers> and the way the mail client encrypts gpg files is a crime against data.
  231. Feb 02 11:44:08 <doctormon> that's also a problem of evolution rather than gpg
  232. Feb 02 11:44:38 <bryce> ACTION: Try one more time to access spreadshirt password, then email bryce for help [crogers]
  233. Feb 02 11:44:50 <bryce> ok next topic
  234. Feb 02 11:45:00 <bryce> === Board election process review [tedg] ===
  235. Feb 02 11:45:40 <tedg> I made some progress on moving the repo to Markdown, but haven't got to the election review yet.
  236. Feb 02 11:45:45 <tedg> No one quit, okay?
  237. Feb 02 11:45:50 <bryce> tedg, :-)
  238. Feb 02 11:46:16 <tedg> I need to grab you sometime bryce to talk about markdown formatting a bit, I'm guessing it is something you care about :-)
  239. Feb 02 11:46:24 <bryce> tedg, ok sounds good
  240. Feb 02 11:46:43 <bryce> ACTION: Collab on markdown formatting for the board docs [bryce,tedg]
  241. Feb 02 11:46:56 <bryce> === Infrastructure hosting ===
  242. Feb 02 11:47:04 <doctormon> tedg: This is to review the election that happened right?
  243. Feb 02 11:47:36 <tedg> doctormon: Somewhat, more to review the process after both of them. We didn't do a review after the first either.
  244. Feb 02 11:47:54 <bryce> (as an aside, at my X.org Board meeting last week, X.org is having trouble maintaining their voting software and is keen on working with other projects to come up with better voting software.)
  245. Feb 02 11:47:55 <tedg> So we need to do a "lessons learned" and update.
  246. Feb 02 11:48:10 <bryce> on hosting, things are proceeding well
  247. Feb 02 11:48:26 <doctormon> bryce: Voting software is something we have.
  248. Feb 02 11:48:39 <bryce> we're now officially signed up for cloudscale.ch. We can have VMs up to 32G RAM
  249. Feb 02 11:49:04 <bryce> doctormon, yep I pointed them at it. They use Borda rather than STV though, but there's ideas percolating.
  250. Feb 02 11:49:32 <doctormon> bryce: It's super easy to add a new method in there, it's built to handle it
  251. Feb 02 11:50:12 <bryce> Ian's established working on our mailman3 stuff. He was working on a demo vm node but I've set up an official devel node last night.
  252. Feb 02 11:51:25 <bryce> he's setting it up using Ansible, which should make it possible to replicate. I need to bone up on Ansible but it looks like a good way to manage services.
  253. Feb 02 11:52:48 <tedg> Cool, sounds like good progress!
  254. Feb 02 11:52:59 <bryce> the minimum ram levels for vm's is 2G, so 32G means we could have up to 16 separate vm's but I'm guessing for production systems we might want to allocate 4G
  255. Feb 02 11:53:27 <bryce> also they have bulk storage in the 100's of G's.
  256. Feb 02 11:53:54 <bryce> I need to draft up some docs and stuff, so more details to come.
  257. Feb 02 11:53:57 <tedg> Oh, so someone told them about how you write e-mails ;-)
  258. Feb 02 11:54:09 <bryce> tedg, hah, guilty!
  259. Feb 02 11:54:47 <doctormon> lol
  260. Feb 02 11:56:33 <bryce> I'm wondering if at some point we might want to move dns from OSUOSL to cloudscale just so we can manage it ourselves more directly.
  261. Feb 02 11:57:12 <bryce> not an area I'm super knowledgeable in though, so may need to ask for help before any decisions can be made there.
  262. Feb 02 11:57:28 <bryce> also, SFC Legal came through with a thumb's up on DigitalOcean, too
  263. Feb 02 11:57:47 <bryce> I haven't had time to think much about that, but offhand guessing we can use it as a cold backup
  264. Feb 02 11:57:51 <tedg> I've done that with my own domain (with Cloudflare) and it's been a lot easier.
  265. Feb 02 11:58:12 <bryce> if we script everything in Ansible and keep in git, then in theory if worse came to worse we could replicate on DigitalOcean and get up and running there
  266. Feb 02 11:58:25 <bryce> I need to find out more about what our credit limits there are going to be though.
  267. Feb 02 11:59:05 <bryce> we should probably also put some thought into backup strategy.
  268. Feb 02 12:00:28 <bryce> ok, moving on
  269. Feb 02 12:00:33 <bryce> Tavmjong, are you with us today?
  270. Feb 02 12:00:38 <Tavmjong> Yes
  271. Feb 02 12:00:46 <Tavmjong> (Late due to kids...)
  272. Feb 02 12:00:53 <bryce> === LGM 2018 [Tav] ===
  273. Feb 02 12:01:02 <bryce> on the contrary, just on time :-)
  274. Feb 02 12:01:48 <Lazur> =hackfest Boston?
  275. Feb 02 12:01:56 <Tavmjong> I need to check with the Google Fonts people about the font work that was proposed.
  276. Feb 02 12:02:17 <Tavmjong> And if that gives us any earmarked funds.
  277. Feb 02 12:02:19 <bryce> Lazur, no LGM's a different date and in Europe this year
  278. Feb 02 12:03:18 <Tavmjong> So far just jabier and I have put our names on the list. Need to get the word out.
  279. Feb 02 12:03:35 <Lazur> contacted ocal if we could push a sticky on frontpage, will try make it happen tomorrow's vectors meeting
  280. Feb 02 12:04:13 <Lazur> so if there is a program to be announced please give it some push towards the marketing team
  281. Feb 02 12:04:21 <bryce> Tavmjong, yes outreach would be nice. Probably also important to distinguish that it is *different* than the Hackfest this year, since we've traditionally had them co-incident
  282. Feb 02 12:04:43 <bryce> Lazur, yes good point.
  283. Feb 02 12:04:57 <Tavmjong> Felipe who did some font work in Inkscape a long time ago has expressed interest in coming when Google was first contemplating sponsoring LGM.
  284. Feb 02 12:05:26 <bryce> ACTION: Get the word out about LGM / Inkscape and invite more attendees [Tavmjong]
  285. Feb 02 12:05:58 <bryce> ok, anything else on LGM?
  286. Feb 02 12:06:08 <Tavmjong> Not that I can think of.
  287. Feb 02 12:06:19 <bryce> thanks Tav
  288. Feb 02 12:06:21 <bryce> === GSoC [ScislaC] ===
  289. Feb 02 12:06:51 <bryce> ScislaC, where's google at? Did project selections get made yet?
  290. Feb 02 12:07:18 <Tavmjong> https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
  291. Feb 02 12:07:47 <Tavmjong> Project selection is announced Feb 12th.
  292. Feb 02 12:08:03 <ScislaC> Tav is correct
  293. Feb 02 12:08:22 <ScislaC> bryce: So, we're submitted and waiting to hear back.
  294. Feb 02 12:08:32 <bryce> ok great
  295. Feb 02 12:08:58 <bryce> we probably need to get our list of project ideas refreshed
  296. Feb 02 12:09:08 <bryce> ok, moving ahead
  297. Feb 02 12:09:13 <bryce> === Other Business ===
  298. Feb 02 12:09:21 <bryce> Anyone other items to discuss?
  299. Feb 02 12:09:32 <ScislaC> none here
  300. Feb 02 12:09:36 <Tavmjong> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code
  301. Feb 02 12:10:02 <crogers> 'm good
  302. Feb 02 12:10:06 <tedg> Just a heads up for folks, they're doing a graphics track at SCALE.
  303. Feb 02 12:10:17 <tedg> ryangorley2 and I think are both giving talks in it.
  304. Feb 02 12:10:29 <Tavmjong> One thing, doctormon: can you add some travel info to the Boston hackfest page?
  305. Feb 02 12:11:12 <bryce> tedg, cool -- please post about this to inkscape-devel@. See if others might want to go
  306. Feb 02 12:11:28 <tedg> Also, Pat David volunteered to let us use the discorse instance he has running at... oh can't find the domain now.
  307. Feb 02 12:11:33 <ryangorley2> tedg: yep
  308. Feb 02 12:11:53 <tedg> It could be an option as a support/mailing list/forum thingy.
  309. Feb 02 12:12:21 <ryangorley2> tedg: https://discuss.pixls.us/
  310. Feb 02 12:12:38 <tedg> Not sure if that's the direction we want to go, but is an option for us to consider.
  311. Feb 02 12:13:46 <bryce> ACTION: Evaluate use of discorse (https://discuss.pixls.us/ ?) for support/mailing list/forum type stuff
  312. Feb 02 12:14:25 <ryangorley2> I'll have more to say about that tomorrow (unless you want to discuss here)
  313. Feb 02 12:14:30 <tedg> The snappy and ubuntu desktop teams have switched to it. (different instances) and seem happy.
  314. Feb 02 12:14:43 <bryce> ryangorley2, tomorrow's meeting sounds fine
  315. Feb 02 12:15:10 <bryce> ACTION: Evaluate use of discorse (https://discuss.pixls.us/ ?) for support/mailing list/forum type stuff [Vector Team]
  316. Feb 02 12:15:11 * tedg will have to start using forums someday
  317. Feb 02 12:15:34 <ryangorley2> Seriously, tedg. :)
  318. Feb 02 12:15:38 <Lazur> why wait?
  319. Feb 02 12:15:43 <bryce> ok, if nothing else let's close this meeting and start on the release meeting
  320. Feb 02 12:15:50 <bryce> == End of Meeting ==
  321. Feb 02 12:15:58 <tedg> Sounds good, thanks bryce !
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