no, in this case the right answer is not "female", it is OpenSource.
But to break into the big companies playground we all have to work together. We need a bundle of:
Inkscape
Gimp
Scribus
and of course get LibreOffice into the boat.
It is the look and feel and the handling. After 25 years of Mac my hands are so used to e.g. cmd+c, cmd+s, cmd+v … It is a natural movement on the keyboard for the thumb, ctrl is just to hard to reach. But Inkscape has ctrl+… for the Mac, that gives me a hard time every day to make the move from Illustrator. (yes I can probably adjust it for every software and then again with every update … but that is not the point)
If you would succed in having one basic concept with similar menu options and short-cuts for all the above software, that would be a big argument for "you learn it once and have it all".
I'm ready to break my thumb if you insist for ctrl but please get in contact with the others and lets do it for all the above software, lets create a nice OpenSoruce Norm.
The main problem with Inkscape/macOS is that there´s currently only one developer who compiles a version for us at his own expense (Apple take 99$/year from developers....)
A very female answer here.. The future for McInkscape 1.0 is already Cmd instead of Ctrl. The older versions with XQuartz have Ctrl, but it was changed.
My problem is the other way around. I have used Windows and Linux and am trying MacOS now. Still having the old MS keyboard doesn't make things easier at all. It is possible to change the keys, and I'll go for setting up both the Ctrl key and the Windows key as Cmd. That way I don't have to think too hard about it.
I use Linux at home, but a Mac at work. Personally I preferred the 0.92 behaviour on MacOS - and I didn't like that much!
The problem, for me, is that 1.0 has changed the most common "system" shortcuts (i.e. those commonly used on other applications on the platform) to use Cmd. But it hasn't changed every use of Ctrl to Cmd.
On 0.92 I would have a few moments of frustration when my fingers hit (say) Cmd-C and nothing would happen. Then I'd kick myself, use Ctrl-C and get on with my work. For prolonged Inkscape use I would revert to my Linux mindset, and be able to carry on without thinking too hard about it.
On 1.0, however, I find myself constantly trying to second-guess which key to use. I'm constantly thinking "is this a platform thing that uses Cmd, or an Inkscape thing that uses Ctrl". Take zooming, or locking the movement direction, for example - they still use the Ctrl key.
So instead of having to use the "wrong" key for the platform, but doing so consistently, in trying to match the platform expectations I find the lack of consistency far more distracting than the old behaviour!
I suppose the best solution for me would be for Ctrl and Cmd to just mean the same thing on the Mac. That way I wouldn't ever have to think about it again, whether I'm mentally in Mac or Linux mode.
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no, in this case the right answer is not "female", it is OpenSource.
But to break into the big companies playground we all have to work together. We need a bundle of:
Inkscape
Gimp
Scribus
and of course get LibreOffice into the boat.
It is the look and feel and the handling. After 25 years of Mac my hands are so used to e.g. cmd+c, cmd+s, cmd+v … It is a natural movement on the keyboard for the thumb, ctrl is just to hard to reach. But Inkscape has ctrl+… for the Mac, that gives me a hard time every day to make the move from Illustrator. (yes I can probably adjust it for every software and then again with every update … but that is not the point)
If you would succed in having one basic concept with similar menu options and short-cuts for all the above software, that would be a big argument for "you learn it once and have it all".
I'm ready to break my thumb if you insist for ctrl but please get in contact with the others and lets do it for all the above software, lets create a nice OpenSoruce Norm.
Thomas
Hi Thomas.
30+ years on a Mac here. Are you probably using Inkscape/XQuartz somehow and not the native 1.x version?
Here´s a screenshot of the first 4 menus and I just found 1 shortcut which contains ctrl (^):
https://postimg.cc/KKTZXN4g
The main problem with Inkscape/macOS is that there´s currently only one developer who compiles a version for us at his own expense (Apple take 99$/year from developers....)
Frank
Hi
A very female answer here.. The future for McInkscape 1.0 is already Cmd instead of Ctrl.
The older versions with XQuartz have Ctrl, but it was changed.
My problem is the other way around. I have used Windows and Linux and am trying MacOS now.
Still having the old MS keyboard doesn't make things easier at all.
It is possible to change the keys, and I'll go for setting up both the Ctrl key and the Windows key as Cmd.
That way I don't have to think too hard about it.
I use Linux at home, but a Mac at work. Personally I preferred the 0.92 behaviour on MacOS - and I didn't like that much!
The problem, for me, is that 1.0 has changed the most common "system" shortcuts (i.e. those commonly used on other applications on the platform) to use Cmd. But it hasn't changed every use of Ctrl to Cmd.
On 0.92 I would have a few moments of frustration when my fingers hit (say) Cmd-C and nothing would happen. Then I'd kick myself, use Ctrl-C and get on with my work. For prolonged Inkscape use I would revert to my Linux mindset, and be able to carry on without thinking too hard about it.
On 1.0, however, I find myself constantly trying to second-guess which key to use. I'm constantly thinking "is this a platform thing that uses Cmd, or an Inkscape thing that uses Ctrl". Take zooming, or locking the movement direction, for example - they still use the Ctrl key.
So instead of having to use the "wrong" key for the platform, but doing so consistently, in trying to match the platform expectations I find the lack of consistency far more distracting than the old behaviour!
I suppose the best solution for me would be for Ctrl and Cmd to just mean the same thing on the Mac. That way I wouldn't ever have to think about it again, whether I'm mentally in Mac or Linux mode.